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America's Got Talent (AGT) - Season 8 (2013) Discussion

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by markymark_ctown, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. That Don Guy

    That Don Guy Now with more GB

    Mar 13, 2003
    Benicia, CA
    At least they didn't say in advance who was 4th in the voting and who was 5th (I think they used to in the past) - otherwise it might influence the voting.

    Also, I am slightly surprised somebody (say, oh, I don't know, how about, the judge who reportedly demanded that the show move to the New York area because he didn't want to fly back and forth to do the show and his radio show) didn't "request" that his vote count double in case of a tie.

    Something tells me they'll be back on August 27, which, if I counted correctly, is when the Wild Card round should be. In fact, I'm a little surprised there isn't a rule that says that each week's "top five" act that isn't voted through to the semi-finals automatically qualifies for the Wild Card round.
  2. jamesbobo

    jamesbobo with a grain of salt

    Jun 18, 2000
    Yes. There is really no need for someone to come offstage other then the fact that the responses are written offstage and someone has to get it to the box.
  3. pdhenry

    pdhenry Now 15% off

    Feb 27, 2005
    The responses were removed from within a clear cylinder inside the box - it's not clear how it would have gone from inside the top step to inside the cylinder but I agree that that's the most likely scenario.
  4. Jayjoans

    Jayjoans New Member

    Jan 22, 2003
    The cylinder is flexible too, but one's assumption is that it's a hard round cylinder. I noticed during the replay last night that the paper had actually creased to some degree when he unfolded it, it wasn't a flat sheet of paper.

    I'd also like to add that his mannerisms are very annoying, the cheesy grin, the open mouth look of complete amazement every time they clap for him, the weepy eyes, the open mouth guffawing at the slightest hint of comedy is extremely bothersome. I get the sense that he's pretty proud of himself and actually does think he's the hippest, most handsome young magician on the planet. I also assume that dad is his assistant, always backstage.
  5. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    Yeah... It was sweet at first when it appeared to be genuine and heartfelt. It's starting to seem deliberately put on now.

    No matter how the contest ends up for him though, he's going to be waist-deep in 'tang for the foreseeable future....
  6. mcb08

    mcb08 Hoya for life!!

    Mar 10, 2006
    The 6ix

    Had to be done.:D
  7. loubob57

    loubob57 Cancer sucks! TCF Club

    Mar 19, 2001
    Fort Worth, TX
    I definitely noticed that the box was clicked into place onto the top step.

    OTA WFAA in DFW. I usually have my receiver at -20dB but had to crank it to like -8dB. So yes the audio was unusually quiet.
  8. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    Ive rewatched this about 20 times and I dont see how they could come out of the ladder. The reason is because of the lid. If it was compressed, the lid would have had to compress too and I dont think it would have stayed on. I can see the tube compressing like you guys say but not the lid.
  9. crowtoo

    crowtoo Member

    Dec 7, 2005
    When he grabs the box, he definitely does "something" with his left hand. It looks like he is reaching into the box or through the box and grabbing the paper from the ladder with his left hand. Something is going on there, I just can't figure out exactly what.

  10. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    I think he's just tripping the lever for whatever mechanism delivers the tube into the box (probably through the bottom).
  11. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    Unless there is a serious optical illusion going on, the tube cant come from the base of the ladder for the reasons I mentioned. He unscews the lid so the lid isnt collapsible.. if it was, it would come off.

    Now I can see him grabbing the paper and sliding it through a false bottom in the cylinder.. pull the cylinder out, unscrew it and voila.

    I dunno.. it looks like he just uses his left hand to support himself when he's going down the ladder.

    Either way, it was a hell of a trick. Ive watched the video about 100 times now and still dont have any idea how he did it.
  12. JLucPicard

    JLucPicard Active Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    West St....
    I was just going to say that whatever the gimmick, he executed flawlessly.

    I think we can all agree that the paper didn't go into the tube blank and magically get the answers written on it. Everything else makes it an impressive iilusion in my book.

    Contrast that to chakra-head and it's absolutely no contest! :)
  13. Donbadabon

    Donbadabon Geocacher TCF Club

    Mar 5, 2002
    Franklin, TN
  14. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    Thats gotta be it. I dont see any other explanation. Here's a video of this device in action with Criss Angel using it.

    After looking at the output he shows, Im 100% sure this is what he used. I had seen this mentioned a few pages back and after seeing someone else use it, you hit the nail on the head.

  15. 2004raptor

    2004raptor time to emancipate

    Dec 30, 2005
    I can't see how it could be a printer on the criss angel one. If so, the audience guy would have seen it in the box or he would have been in on it. But then it also was sealed it the jar.
  16. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    If you notice, Criss moves him away from the box pretty quick.

    Collins was also sealed in that plastic tube.

    Lemme show you another series. Id love to see the inside of that box.

    All of them appear to be sealed in the jar. This next series is OLD and its even the same.

  17. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    A collapsible soft plastic tube can very easily have a separate loose lid applied before extracting from the case by a sleight-of-hand expert in order to complete the illusion that the lid was already on the tube.

    ETA: Criss Angel's trick: his own writing (he signed the bottom and added the date "6•3•04") of the number "3" did not match the handwriting from the person who actually wrote "his prediction" for him and secreted it into the secret compartment of the table top onto which the case was placed.
  18. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    Im telling you, its the Master Prediction System.. look at this. Its not in English but the payoff is almost exactly the same.

  19. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    I don't think anyone is disputing that at this point. The sales page for that device doesn't say how it actually works though; I think we're all just speculating on the details now.
  20. KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004

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