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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by s10023, Nov 13, 2013.
Don't forget to send an e-mail to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. His email address is Jeff@Amazon.com
If you are referring to Amazon as a major competitor to Tivo, then you are correct. If you are suggesting Roku is a real competitor to Tivo, you are mistaken.
I, too, would gladly welcome Amazon Prime streaming to Roamio. I'm not sure if it will ever arrive.
Thank you for contacting TiVo Customer Support. I would be glad to help you with feature requests. At this time there are no official announcements for Amazon Prime, so we don't have a time frame for any possible Roamio update. Hopefully that will come soon though.
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This request has been banging around for nearly three years now. Tivo apparently doesn't care how many threads we make requesting Prime streaming.
I don't even know why it's in the TiVo software, the app in it's current form is garbage, remove it and use the HDD and menu space for something useful.
I don't think Amazon is interested in bringing it's streaming to more devices. They don't have it onAndr oid either. I've contacted them about it before, and their response is that they offer it on their Kindle Fire tablets and that I should get one of those.
TiVo can't force a company to support a platform they do not wish to support. Clearly Amazon feels the < 1 million TiVo retail users as too small a user base. This is the reason HBO has given.
Amazon knows full well that Prime Users are not paying for Prime Instant and they are ok forcing their customers to use a Roku, Xbox 360, PS3, iPad, iPhone or iPod. As someone mentioned Amazon doesn't even support Android at all other than their Kindle. Do you think it's Samsung's fault that their tablets can't stream Amazon Prime?
Clearly Amazon has done that as Kindle tablets compete with cheaper Android tablets.
Then there are those rumors of Amazon making their own set top box.
I'm still hoping that HTML5 support will open up the platform to more services. Amazon may not see <1 million subscribers as enough to dedicate resources to a special Adobe Air app, but HTML5 if universal and should run on any platform with a proper browser, so hopefully they will transition their app to HTML5 and then open it up to all platforms that support HTML5 like Netflix is doing.
I like Dan203's explanation. That's the only plausible reason I can come up with that Amazon would be happy with Roku but not with Tivo.
I'm really hoping this is the case. And it does make sense. Why update the old app when a better development environment is coming soon?
Amazon Prime on Roku is not HTML5 based. Roku's < 3 lack the hardware to handle the HTML5 client. It's also the reason why currently the latest Netflix app only runs on Roku3.
But Dan's right that with Series 4 & 5 having HTML5 runtimes companies have very little reason to NOT support TiVo with their HTML5 based apps.
But like Netflix companies need to rewrite their current Flash, SilverLight, or platform specific SDK (i.e Roku SDK) based apps as HTML5 apps. That will take time.
Just don't get your hopes up and you won't be disappointed.
The industry as a whole seems to be shifting toward HTML5 just because of it's cross platform nature and broad support. But it is taking time. I'm not sure Amazon even has an HTML5 based app yet. AFAIK all of their current apps are running on Flash based clients or native code. So we'll likely have to wait for them to deploy an HTML5 based app before we see it on TiVo.
BTW, it's not on the $35 Google video thing either, right? If it were, that would be one thing to get me to get that..
Google has it's own competing Play store for movies and will never allow Amazon Instant video on Chromecast. Apple iTunes is the reason why Amazon isn't on Apple TV.
Personally, I would love to see VUDU support, as well.
Just FYI, if you're really seriously craving Amazon Prime videos (and Hulu, and many other goodies) on your Tivo, you can do it right now with PlayOn, pyTivo, and the pyTivo plugin for PlayOn:
The only cost is the PlayOn subscription and they have a 30 day return policy. A lifetime sub costs less than one year of Amazon Prime and there are other plans.
Couple of caveats:
1. No HD, but mpeg2 videos at 4.2 Mbps which isn't too bad.
2. Best to have a quad-core CPU in the PC running PlayOn and pytivo.
PlayOn now has an HD extra-cost option, but it doesn't allow the pyTivo plugin to do HD -- the limitation is intrinsic to the PlayOn plugin.
Message From Customer Service
You can purchase and download, but not stream, Amazon Instant Video titles to your TiVo. Because streaming is not supported at this time, you can't stream Prime Instant Video titles on your TiVo.
We are working to expand our Prime Instant Video service to a broader selection of devices in the future.
Also, I’ve taken your concern about making the Prime Instant Video content compatible with "TiVo" as a feedback and forwarded your comments on to our Amazon Instant Video Development Team to consider as soon as possible.
Thank you for letting us know what you want from our digital video service. It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. Your valuable feedback will help us to improve the selection and service we provide.
The Amazon Instant Video Development Team will carefully review your suggestion.
Thanks for your patience and helping us to increase the compatible devices available for Prime Instant Video content. We look forward to seeing you again soon.
TiVo is my go to box for watching Amazon content I rent or purchase since it is typically downloaded in 1080P24. For Prime streaming I use my Roku. But I rarely use Prime streaming since Netflix is what I primarily use for streaming. And the TiVo Roamio/Mini is also my primary Netflix viewer.
Amazon streaming only accounts for 1/20th the bandwidth that netflix streaming does. Amazon streaming is still very small compared to Netflix so I guess it's not a priority. Of course it would be nice to have it on the TiVo, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Didn't PlayOn recently start HD streaming? I I thought I read about it on Zatz? I've had PlayOn for a while but never really used it because it was only SD in the past.
Now that I've setup a new, lower power, TiVo Desktop PC, I guess it's time I revisit PlayOn if I can get HD streaming from it.