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Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Resist, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. Resist

    Resist New Member

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    Why can't Tivo do Amazon Instant Video on the Premiere? I can do it on my computer, I can do it on my iPhone and iPad, but not on my Premiere. In this day and age, it seems silly.
     
  2. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    1700 posts and you don't know the answer to that question?

    The Premiere processor barely supports any of the apps as designed using the Adobe Air framework. Amazon has decided for their own reasons not to update it - likely because of this issue and minimal numbers of deployed units for a custom implementation.

    The Roamio series has a stronger processor and uses a more common / supportable HTML5 platform. It is more likely to be updated to live streaming on that platform.

    It is highly unlikely you will ever see Amazon streaming on the Premiere line.
     
  3. Sep 1, 2013 #3 of 28
    Resist

    Resist New Member

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    If I knew the answer, I wouldn't have asked the question. No need to be sarcastic.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2013 #4 of 28
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    We don't know. TiVo has a unique agreement with Amazon. They are the only device that can download, not stream, Amazon purchases and rentals. It could be that they don't know how to incorporate streaming without confusing users. Or it could be that the Premiere hardware is crap and apps run like sh*t and Amazon doesn't want to create an app for that platform.

    At this point we're more likely to see an Amazon streaming app on the new Roamio. It has a new apps platform that uses HTML5 instead of Flash so it should be easier for 3rd party services like Amazon to create and maintain apps.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2013 #5 of 28
    aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Tivo was one of the first devices to work with Amazon Unbox. It may have been the only company that ever did this. I can't remember. You would think that being the first out of the gate would have been a good thing for Tivo. It wasn't. Amazon Instant Video on Tivo is almost exactly the same as when it was released circa 2007.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2013 #6 of 28
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    It is my belief that none of the big OTT providers were willing to allow their brands to be implemented on a platform that could not meet certain performance standards.

    The Premiere platform simply could not meet these standards, thus the update was denied by Amazon.

    Done and finalized - the streaming version of the Amazon app will NEVER be added to the Premiere line although we may very well see it on the Roamio line resonably soon.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2013 #7 of 28
    hawkeye62

    hawkeye62 New Member

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    I just stumbled on this thread. I have a Tivo Premier DVR. I thought the Premier was the last version before Roamio. Which of the prior versions will work with Amazon Instant Video? Please excuse me if the answer is obvious, I am fairly new to Tivo and I thought the Premier was the latest and greatest prior to Roamio.

    Thanks, Jim
     
  8. Sep 9, 2013 #8 of 28
    jrtroo

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    The series 3 also works with the Amazon download service. That was the generation before Premiere.
     
  9. Sep 9, 2013 #9 of 28
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Amazon Instant works all the way back to the Series 2 TiVos.
     
  10. hawkeye62

    hawkeye62 New Member

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    Thanks for the replies!

    But NOT Premier?

    Thanks, Jim
     
  11. jrtroo

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    You are confused. The OP asked the question incorrectly as well.

    The downloading service, Amazon Instant (initially called "Unbox"), works starting with the S2 as noted by Dan. That means it works with each and every generation of Tivo all the way through the current Roamio, including the Premiere.

    You seem to be asking about Amazon Prime Instant Videos, which Amazon has not enabled to be used with a Tivo. The thought is that they may finally write this app since the Roamio has a new app platform, but we know nothing at this point.

    See also: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=503707
     
  12. hawkeye62

    hawkeye62 New Member

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    Thanks for clearing up the confusion!:up:

    Jim
     
  13. ADent

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    How fast is the processor in my 3 year old Blu-Ray player? It does Amazon Prime/Instant Video.
     
  14. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    But it can't download the content in 1080p. Only stream it in 720P.
     
  15. hershey4

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    Are you sure about that? I had Amazon Prime for awhile in the past and I am pretty sure I unboxed it on my Series 2.

    Prime just means that there are some "free" library movie selections. When I browse Amazon Instant Video movies, many are free for Prime or 3.99 for me. I think of Prime as a payment program, not a technical difference.
     
  16. jrtroo

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    Yes, 100% sure. They are different services. Prime is streaming, like netflix, the other serivce is for downloads.

    The Amazon "prime" program did not even exist when the S2 was in production.
     
  17. hershey4

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    I have only recently had streaming available on my recent Roku and I had Prime well before that so I must have downloaded Prime videos (to my S2).

    The other "service" (non-Prime) is definitely stream-able-- Just not on a Tivo. I would not call it a service. Prime and not-Prime are both part of Amazon Instant Video service.

    S2 may be out of production, but not out of use. The download AIV app still works fine.

    I plan on getting another free "trial" of Prime for the holiday season to take advantage of free shipping. (after a waiting period, you get to trial it again). I will confirm.
     
  18. aaronwt

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    I guess I need to jump on the Amazon streaming bandwagon. Since I don't have a main TiVo at each location since going to a Roamio and a couple of MInis. And you can't stream downloaded Amazon content from the Roamioto the Mini, I guess they need to get the streaming Amazon app on the Mini. I do have a Roku at each location so it's really not an issue, but it the TiVo Minis have Amazon streaming then I don't have to switch inputs.
     
  19. moedaman

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    I would rather watch 1080p from a Redbox BD rental at 1/3rd the cost though. The only time I rent streaming video is Vudu HDX 99 cent specials. Although I did purchase Breaking Bad last season after Dish gave me a $35 credit and a free Roku player because of the AMC dispute.
     
  20. aaronwt

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    The BD takes too long to come out. The 1080P content I will watch from Amazon is typically streamed within a few days of the original air date. If I'm going to stream a movie I will watch it from Vudu as my first choice. For BD rentals I use Netflix, 3D Blu-ray rental , and Blockbuster. With Redbox to take up any slack. But RedBox is more of a pain since you have to pick up the disc and drop it off.
     

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