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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Polcamilla, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. May 15, 2013 #41 of 145
    Polcamilla

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    There's a super hero called "Wonder Man"?? How inadequate must that guy feel!
     
  2. May 15, 2013 #42 of 145
    JYoung

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    Yes there is, and I liked him until John Byrne got his hands on him.
     
  3. May 15, 2013 #43 of 145
    Polcamilla

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    Reading that Wiki article, is it wrong that I think he ought to be played by Matt LeBlanc?
     
  4. May 16, 2013 #44 of 145
    Ereth

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    Few people remember that Wonder Mans brain patterns were used by Ultron to create the Vision. Given the rumors that we might see The Vision in future Avengers movie, it would be way cool to use Wonder Man to set that up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

    Not that the movies/TV has to use everything from the books, but it'd be a nice wink to the long time fans.
     
  5. May 16, 2013 #45 of 145
    Graymalkin

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    I remember because I'm an old dude. :)

    Not only does the Vision have Wonder Man's brain patterns, he has the Golden-Age Human Torch's android body. I always admired Steve Englehart for coming up with that brilliant origin, although I'm told a lot of Marvel writers and editors hated him for meddling with their characters.

    Oh, and is there any reason they can't use Prince Namor, the SUB-MARINER?
     
  6. May 16, 2013 #46 of 145
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Roy Thomas and Neal Adams, actually, although Englehart was writing the book when they finally revealed it. But there was that famous scene in the Kree-Skrull War when Ant-Man finds the evidence that the Vision was actually the Human Torch (although we didn't know that's what he found). Apparently, Adams drew the scene without knowing what Ant-Man found, and it struck Thomas that Viz was HT. He dropped hints through the rest of his run.
     
  7. May 16, 2013 #47 of 145
    Graymalkin

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    Really? It was Thomas and not Englehart who came up with that, and Englehart took the credit -- and the heat -- because he was the writer? Huh.
     
  8. May 16, 2013 #48 of 145
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I don't think he ever took the credit...in retrospect, it was clear that Thomas had been setting it up for years, and I knew when I was a kid the Adams-Thomas story. Englehart was just tying up loose plot threads, and I haven't ever heard him claim anything else.
     
  9. May 16, 2013 #49 of 145
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    So what's the big deal with "Coulson Lives?" Did he die in the Avengers movie? I remember almost nothing from that movie other than a gigantic flying craft and a ridiculously long and elaborate battle scene at the end.

    Oh, and them all sitting in a restaurant after the credits.
     
  10. May 16, 2013 #50 of 145
    Goober96

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    Yes, he died in the Avengers movie.
     
  11. May 16, 2013 #51 of 145
    Rob Helmerichs

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    He was impaled through the chest by a metal rod during that battle. He had a very long and fairly explicit death scene.

    They's gots some 'splainin' to do.
     
  12. May 16, 2013 #52 of 145
    JYoung

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    Thanks to John Byrne, that's no longer the case.

    Byrne destroyed the Thomas era Vision completely by having him dismantled by the Government and his brain completely erased.
    The West Coast Avengers put his body back together but not his mind.

    He was later destroyed in Avengers Disassembled and then rebuilt for Young Avengers with a young Immortus' brain patterns.

    And he's not the rebuilt Human Torch but something Ultron built based on some of Professor Horton's design work.
    Which is why the real Original Human Torch has been running around the Marvel Universe for the last 15 years (although somewhat on and off, so to speak).
     
  13. May 17, 2013 #53 of 145
    dtle

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    In a world of super powers, aliens, and high-tech gadgetry, I don't think they will have a problem coming up with an explanation. Or they may even drag it out as the whole season-long mystery plot.
     
  14. May 17, 2013 #54 of 145
    Philosofy

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    I think I have it. Coulson is Wolverine's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roomate.
     
  15. May 17, 2013 #55 of 145
    Polcamilla

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    Not that it matters hugely, but Wolverine's father's brother's nephew's cousin could be Wolverine himself.
     
  16. May 17, 2013 #56 of 145
    Rob Helmerichs

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    The simplest way would be to make the TV character an LMD (Life Model Decoy; android duplicates that are commonly used in the SHIELD comic books). And it would open up some interesting sci-fi storylines...what is it to be human? Is an exact duplicate of Coulson Coulson? Etc. etc...a long form version of what Blade Runner did (or Battlestar did badly). All the sci-fi, none of the budget.
     
  17. May 17, 2013 #57 of 145
    Ereth

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    Previously unmentioned twin brother. Phil Coulsen died in the helicarrier. Paul Coulsen, though, he works in a smaller facility that is soon to get a TV show.

    Yeah, that works.
     
  18. May 17, 2013 #58 of 145
    TonyD79

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    Ick. I wish I didn't know that now.
     
  19. May 17, 2013 #59 of 145
    TonyD79

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    Stick one of Tony Starks glowing widgets in the middle of his chest. ;)
     
  20. May 17, 2013 #60 of 145
    sean67854

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    Wouldn't...
    I suspect you might see a mix of C-Listers and low level A and B listers appearing. It would be pretty easy to use this show to get the public's interest in a certain character and/or a certain actor playing that character.
     

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