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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D "The only light in the darkness" OAD 4/22/2014

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by milo99, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Apr 24, 2014 #81 of 204
    Jagman_sl

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    Plus he was stuffed in the ceiling, was dripping blood, and had the dead eyes. I'm no doctor but I think I'd call it at that point, too...
     
  2. Apr 24, 2014 #82 of 204
    unitron

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    Did you run it on slow motion or on a really big screen?

    'Cause the version I saw never stayed on him long enough for me to focus on anything.
     
  3. Apr 24, 2014 #83 of 204
    Jagman_sl

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    Big screen. :)
     
  4. Apr 24, 2014 #84 of 204
    unitron

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    About that same time they were thawing out Cap for the first time the original Nick Fury (white guy, used to be a Sgt. and led the Howling Commandos) was having some gray added to his temples and being recruited to be an agent of S.H.E.I.L.D., and all of that was going on during my early adolescence. (In later adolescence comic books took a back seat to other interests)

    So it's still a little strange for me for Fury to be a black guy born about the same time I was.

    Not as strange as if they'd used Hasselhoff for the Shaft remake though. :D
     
  5. Apr 24, 2014 #85 of 204
    smbaker

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    Doesn't that seem like an odd place to stash a blood-dripping corpse? Why not just hide him behind some of the boxes? Absent the tracking devices, Skye wasn't likely to have gone into that room.

    It just sounds like a lot of extra work to me (then again, it's just a silly TV show).
     
  6. Apr 24, 2014 #86 of 204
    unitron

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    I think a lot of stuff is starting to be shot not just for wider screens but for bigger ones, so where in the past they might have zoomed in more on something important to the plot, or kept it on the screen longer, now it's become blink and you miss it.
     
  7. Apr 24, 2014 #87 of 204
    Jagman_sl

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    Not to mention actually placing the body on the grate when there were solid ceiling tiles right next to it. If Ward is the best that HYDRA has to offer then this may not last long....
     
  8. Apr 24, 2014 #88 of 204
    smbaker

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    Well yeah, but then put him in comparison against what Shield has to offer... They couldn't even administer the lie detector test properly.

    One agent of shield left because her feelings were hurt. Another left to go save his ex-girlfriend. Meanwhile, HYDRA steals the bus right out from under them.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2014 #89 of 204
    Jagman_sl

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    LOL! Good points!
     
  10. Apr 24, 2014 #90 of 204
    Rob Helmerichs

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    An argument could be made that they'd be better off just being slaves to Hydra.

    :D

    SHIELD, by the way, is an acronym, hence the capitals (more properly S.H.I.E.L.D.). Hydra is just a word.
     
  11. Apr 24, 2014 #91 of 204
    john4200

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    And a fifth one completely misses the point.
     
  12. Apr 24, 2014 #92 of 204
    Ereth

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    Since S.H.I.E.L.D is a terrorist organization now, and the Government is going to need some sort of intelligence/security agency, do you think we'll get H.A.M.M.E.R. next?
     
  13. Apr 24, 2014 #93 of 204
    Gerryex

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    That was my point. Even within the usually unbelievable SHIELD universe I thought this was totally ridiculous!! First we see May walking out of the outpost in a heavy coat and in the snow. And the next time we see her she is walking without a jacket and there's no snow on the ground, and while nothing is explicitly said it seems that very little time passed. Silly!!!

    Gerry
     
  14. Apr 24, 2014 #94 of 204
    Ereth

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    One might conjecture that if every single person misses your point that one of two possibilities exist:

    1) You didn't make your point very well

    or

    2) Your point is just wrong and nobody agrees with you.

    Take your pick.
     
  15. Apr 24, 2014 #95 of 204
    john4200

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    3) Your conjectures are worthless and you just want to make a personal attack
     
  16. Apr 24, 2014 #96 of 204
    Ereth

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    Which part of that was a personal attack?

    If you are the only person on the planet who understands your point, it stands to reason that you haven't expressed your point well, does it not?

    If others DO understand your point, but still argue against you, it stands to reason that they believe you are in error, does it not?
     
  17. Apr 24, 2014 #97 of 204
    Jagman_sl

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    It's funny, because I do see it written both ways. Even the Wikipedia article on Hydra has it capitalized in the header and just the capital H in the body. But you're definitely correct that Marvel themselves only use the capital H spelling. Now I'm curious where the all-caps version comes from.
     
  18. Apr 24, 2014 #98 of 204
    john4200

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    3) Many people do understand the simple point, which was clearly expressed, and they agree with it. So they have nothing to post.

    I first wrote: "I was surprised that Skye did not think, even for a second, that the traitor might be Melinda. The evidence that it was Ward was quite persuasive, but I did not expect Skye to be so rational about it so quickly."

    Later, I responded to the assertion that Skye subconsciously put things together in the few seconds between finding the dead body and saying "Ward" with: "Which is quite an amazing and unusual thing for a person to do so quickly in such a situation, given natural biases, the complexity of the evidence, and the stress of finding a colleague's dead body."

    If you think this point was expressed unclearly, we might conjecture that the problem is with your reading comprehension, and not the point as expressed.

    As for disagreeing with the point, it is certainly possible that a reasonable person could disagree. Such a person might argue that most people, in Skye's situation, having just freaked out over finding the blood-dripping dead body of a colleague, would have taken only a few seconds to review all the evidence in their head and immediately deduce that the murderer and traitor was the man who, a few minutes ago, they were kissing and telling that he was a good person.

    But arguing about the details of the evidence for Ward being the killer is not disagreeing with my point, which, by the way, included the phrase "the evidence that it was Ward was quite persuasive".
     
  19. Apr 24, 2014 #99 of 204
    smbaker

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    I thought they just didn't know how to use capslock (which wouldn't be surprising given their general ineptitude).
     
  20. smbaker

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    4) many people have you on ignore.

    5) those who don't have you on ignore recognize the futility of arguing with you.

    ETA: most of all, I think you underestimate the number of people who simply don't care. The point you're making is not particularly important. As an audience, we're clearly shown the order of events that leads Skye to realize Ward is a double agent. Whether or not Skye's realization is reasonable and realistic given the time frame is utterly and completely unimportant given a universe with superheroes, gods, and aliens.
     

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