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Aereo vs TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by buscuitboy, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    A couple of Comcast's most affluent markets have FIOS, and they don't change the rules by market (at least one thing they do right...), so FIOS can set the rules for all of Comcast.

    For light to moderate users, Aereo wouldn't be anywhere near the 300GB limit that Comcast may or may not put in place at some point in the future.
     
  2. wco81

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    Well retransmission fees are a big part of what's driving up programming costs.

    And of course, local TV has NFL and other major sports programming, which also is driving up programming costs.

    You know how everyone wishes you can just get HBO Go directly from HBO?

    Maybe as Netflix and other streaming services finance original content, you could go sign deals with several content providers and Aereo would get you the missing component which would be major sports.

    Unless the broadcasters find a court that is willing to shut down Aereo. In the latest decision, one of the judges ruled that Aereo threatened the broadcasters business models, as if that's within his purview. Fortunately, he was in the minority but SCOTUS would probably side with the big money over the startup.
     
  3. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy New Member

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    While I know this is HIGHLY unlikely, on some level, I would love to actually see TiVo maybe buy Aereo and then incorporate its functionality into one of its future line of DVRs. Could be an attractive option for a lot of people out there. Would also maybe help TiVo transition into the world of cloud DVR functionality.

    Of course, i am sure it would not make the cable companies happy either so that would most likely be a huge factor too.
     
  4. Bigg

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    It's totally the opposite of TiVo's whole purpose as a DVR. The only type of cloud DVR that will really take off is from a cable, fiber or IPTV provider, where they have the bandwidth to do it on a private network.
     
  5. wco81

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    That's what Comcast is working towards with their X1 platform.

    Makes sense, keep clients on minimal hardware specs, not load them up with multi terabyte drives. But there would be "infinite storage" in the cloud.

    If they have any kind of competence with the UI and UX, Tivo could be in for a tough slog.
     
  6. jcthorne

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    Comcast does not have 'plans' for data caps. They HAVE data caps for home use customers. 300GB/ mo. Only business class is uncapped and you pay extra for the privledge. Also be aware that going past the cap 3 times will get you a notice of violation of terms of service and termination. You cannot switch to business class once you have been terminated for violation of TOS. Its happened on a number of folks.

    I understand Comcast does not enforce the caps in all areas. They DO in Houston and many other areas. Mostly where they are actively marketing business class service.
     
  7. jcthorne

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    Yes, the number of interesting ideas and applications for the use of unlimited network bandwidth and unlimited data volume far outweighs its availability.
     
  8. Bigg

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    That's semantics. A cap that they don't enforce is the same as not having one. I did like 3TB one month on bittorent, and they didn't care.
     
  9. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    It's actually a cap that Comcast has officially suspended for most of the country. It's not a question of enforcement at all; there is no cap to enforce. There are a limited number of franchises in which they are experimenting with cap options, while they figure out what to do nationally. (They also reserve the right to take action if the situation warrants.)
     
  10. buscuitboy

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    I am with Comcast and this data cap suspension has been ongoing for years now. Probably since about 2010. Who knows if they will EVER put it back, but if they do implement 300GB per month, I am OK with this.
     
  11. dylanemcgregor

    dylanemcgregor Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I cut the cord a number of years ago. I currently have no OTA and use streaming pretty much exclusively for content (except for a few DVDs per month). We watch at least an hour of streaming per day, and many days it will be more like 3-4 hours. Both my wife and I work from home and do a lot of work on the internet, stream radio, use a VPN, etc... I still don't think I've ever broken 100GB in a month. My weekly average seems to hover around 15GB or so according to my router.

    I don't stream in full HD, which I know would be a deal breaker for some (I actually find that HD degrades the experience, so I'm happy to do without it).
     
  12. dylanemcgregor

    dylanemcgregor Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    But I wonder what the endgame for Tivo is when most people get TV on demand streaming via the internet, and there is no longer a need for a DVR? I still use my TiVo for Amazon downloads and had used it to play DVDs until the player started being too temperamental and noisy to use. Other than those limited use cases there isn't much an S2 is good for without a content source.

    I know the newer models allow for streaming from some services, but besides the fact that I've read the streaming aspect is typically sub-optimal on TiVo, the current subscription model doesn't really make sense compared to something like Roku.
     
  13. Bigg

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    That's going to be a LONG time from now. TiVo's biggest threat it being cut out of the system, which they are only in because of federal law surrounding CableCard...
     

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