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Aereo vs TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by buscuitboy, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy New Member

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    I am in the Atlanta area and recently got a beta invite for the new Aereo TV service. Have been using it for about 2 weeks now (I think it goes live for everyone on July 1st).

    I must say, its actually a rather good service & I have been liking it. It includes cloud DVR service (20 or 60hrs) & while its definitely in its beginning stages & not perfect by any means, I think it has some promise. For now, it works mainly with standard browsers, Roku and Apple devices. I personally used it on a laptop and my wife's iPad and the image quality was pretty good. Of course, I realize this depends on your internet connection. I have a 40Mbs Comcast connection so I am sure this definitely helped. I would like to try it on a Roku at some point and see how easy it is. Its only for local channels (in certain markets), but maybe it will also paved the way for someone else to come up with a true a-la-cart internet TV package of some kind.

    Its not a direct threat (yet) to TiVo, but I do like the whole "cloud DVR" concept and would love to see TiVo go in a similar direction. I'm sure its not in the cards at all for their upcoming Series 5 line of DVRs, but maybe down the road they will incorporate something similar (like local programming only). Only time will tell.
     
  2. slowbiscuit

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    It will never be a direct threat to Tivo as long as it's only the local channels, the OTA-only users now have to be a small niche. I do enjoy the disruption that it's causing among the powers that be though, and I hope Intel can deliver their promised TV over the net service later this year (or next).
     
  3. P42

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    For some folks Aereo will supply sufficient channels, particularly when some much other content is available via streaming. OTA may not be an option for them due to location, eg apartment dweller. And if they can get internet from a non-bundler (with blunders the cost of not getting basic cable with internet can often be just a few dollars), then it can make sense.

    As for it been a threat to Tivo, not really but it does offer more choice to cord cutters.
     
  4. MikeAndrews

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    There IS a Roku channel for Aereo? :cool:

    That would make me a sub, over & above UVerse until I get OTA working well.
     
  5. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    My personal opinion is that TiVo will continue as is for as long as the cable/satellite industry is successful in preventing a meaningful alternative delivery system.

    When the cable/satellite industries stranglehold on content delivery is sufficiently removed TiVo will adapt to whatever we end up with. In fact that is what is going on now and has been since TiVo added the ability to stream Netflix and download podcasts.

    It will be very interesting to see what happens over the next few years - of course it all seems to require reliable fast Internet access that isn't tied to a cable sub which isn't much of a reality for many of us.
     
  6. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy New Member

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    Yea, I don't think it will be a direct threat in the NEAR future, but if things evolve and Aereo expands beyond local TV channels, it could be a potential competitor. That is all I was trying to get across.

    Yea, Roku is an option for Aereo. I personally don't have a Roku yet, but have thought about getting the new Roku 3. Might have to. Apple TV is an option too, but through Airplay.

    From my account's support section, it looks like there is not a traditional Aereo "channel" for Roku though and the setup is a little different. Here is what it says for me:

    Please note: Aereo is a private channel and is not listed in the Roku channel store. Aereo is also only available for use within select areas.

    Watching Aereo on your TV with Roku

    • Log in to aereo.com
    • Open your Aereo settings and click on ‘Link with Roku’.
    • There will be a link that will take you to Roku website to sign in, or if you’re already signed in, to the ‘Add Channel’ page.
    • Click the ‘Yes, Add Channel’ button.
     
  7. AMike

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    Series3Sub Active Member

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    Aereo is great for "cord cutters" who have no desire for any of the MVPD channels. One presumes they get their sports fix from the big leagues sites, although I don't know what they offer vs. an MVPD. But it is certainly not even a close alternative to those who want the "cable" channels and want to view the shows while they are HOT and new. TiVo is not in danger so long as the have a plan for the possibility of the day when most programming will be delivered via internet, and Netflix may not be around or bought out by then, if the dreaded DATACAPS can be eliminated, the whole "Cloud DVR" thing won't really take off.
     
  9. Jul 5, 2013 #9 of 33
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    I agree with P42. Other than apartment dwellers who can't use an OTA antenna and those who don't want one, I do not know who the customer base would consist of.
     
  10. MikeAndrews

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    People like me who are looking at a $1200 investment in an OTA antenna on a tower, and mere mortals who don't want to set up their own DVRs.
     
  11. P42

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    $1200? Ouch!
     
  12. tchapin

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    I tried Aereo and it was pretty good. I had two main issues:

    1. Their guide stinks. It's hard to scan or search through.
    2. We don't really watch anything on the channels that we get through it. Perhaps in the fall?

    The quality was pretty good and the app on the Roku was fine.
     
  13. buscuitboy

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    While I am currently using Aereo on a free 3 month trial subscription for my area (Atlanta) & its working good, I now wonder how long they will truly last with the latest news of Samsung buying out Boxee for $30 million.

    Since they aren't real pleased in the first place with Aereo, I can see one of the big networks coming in and offering some insane amount to buy up Aereo TV (& Aereo accepting it) in order to simply eliminate competition. I see this happen all the time.

    They are TRYING to shut them down through the court system, but so far have been unsuccessful. They have threatened to even move some of their OTA broadcasts to cable only in the Aereo markets.

    I guess if its more cost effective to just buy them off & cheaper than what it would cost to keep taking them to court and/or possibly moving stations to cable, then it will be attempted.

    Yea, maybe they aren't truly worth the 50 million (hypothetical figure) they would give them, but they might figure to lose more than that if they don't buy them to get them out of the way.
     
  14. Bigg

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    I wouldn't want a re-compressed signal that someone else has control over. I want my stuff stored locally, and I want control over it.
     
  15. tenthplanet

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    I think Data Caps are here to stay. And regrettably inexpensive internet service will be history in a few years. Aero will be dead before that.
     
  16. Bigg

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    I'm not so sure. Comcast has had plans for caps for a while, but I think they will get whooped by Verizon if they do cap. Even at 300GB, streaming video isn't really affected, as you're not getting to 300GB just streaming.
     
  17. P42

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    We do a lot of streaming, mostly Netflix, I would say it is how most TV is watch in our house, and some months we are well over 200GB for internet traffic, and there is no one torrenting etc so that is almost all streaming.
    Maybe we should use some DVDs more often ;)
     
  18. tenthplanet

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    Verizon's Fios is not in that many markets and there are some they even pulled out of. And they don't seem to be expanding.
    The wars are between Comcast, Time Warner, and ATT. 300GB is on the high side for a cap I expect them to go lower.
     
  19. tenthplanet

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    Your case is not unusual, I have heard of a number of households that exceed 200GB.
     
  20. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    With Aereo, you would be streaming ALL of your programming, not just Netflix. With HD channels at 1.5 to 2 GB per hour, you will hit the Comcast home use cap. For full time streaming, you would need the uncapped commercial service which steps the price up a bit. (starts at about $60 a month for 15Mbit service ).

    No, as long as the internet providers have the caps, a full time streaming solution will not be feasible.
     

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