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Advice from a veteran to a newbie (consolidated)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by DMHinCO, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. Sep 14, 2002 #21 of 233

    DMHinCO Blithering Idiot

    Dec 14, 2000
    Denver, CO
    Mike, it is much prettier in its MS Word format, which is zipped in the link above, but here it is pasted.

    TiVo Central
    TiVo - Now Playing
    1 - Season Pass Manager
    2 - To Do List
    3 - Search Using WishLists
    4 - Search By Title
    5 - Browse By Channel
    6 - Browse By Time
    7 - Record Time/Channel
    8 - TiVo's Suggestions
    9 - Showcases
    0 - Play the cartoon intro sequence

    Program List Screens
    CHAN UP/DOWN - Page Up/Down. Look for up and/or down arrows with underline along the right of screen.
    PLAY - Starts highlighted recording. (Now Playing only)
    CLEAR - Jumps to delete confirmation panel. (Now Playing, To Do List, Season Pass, and WishLists)

    Program Information Screens
    CHAN UP/DOWN - Shows previous/next program title. Look for up and/or down arrows with underline along the right of screen.
    DISPLAY - Shows more detailed program information, such as bit actors, Original Air Date.
    PLAY - Starts recording. (Now Playing only)
    CLEAR - Jumps to delete confirmation panel. (Now Playing, To Do List, Season Pass, and WishLists)

    Text Input Screens
    0 - Starts at the top of the list. (Search by Title and Actor/Director WishLists only)
    FWD - Inserts a space.
    BACK - Backspace
    CLEAR - Clear the entire field.
    SLOW - Enter the wild card symbol (*), means it will match any word that starts with the previous letters. (Keyword and Title WishLists only)
    PAUSE - Quotes (") to limit search results to explicit word combinations.
    Special Characters - Hyphens (-), slashes (/) and periods (.) should be replaced by spaces. Any other marks, such as apostrophes ('), asterisks (*) and ampersands (&), are ignored.

    Live TV
    LIVE TV/GUIDE - Press once to enter Live TV from Tivo menus and again to bring up Program Guide, once again to return to Live TV.
    DISPLAY - Press once to display the Channel Banner in its large version. Press again to remove. RIGHT ARROW also works when no banner is visible.
    RIGHT ARROW - Pressing RIGHT arrow while the banner is visible cycles between a small, medium and large version of the banner, each with a different amount of information. This sets the size of banner displayed while changing channels.
    CLEAR - hides graphics that aren't part of the program (status bar, channel banner, Tivomatic). Helpful when picture is paused to see entire screen.
    FWD - Fast Forward with three speeds (3x, 20x, 60x). Acts as single frame forward when pause or slow in effect.
    BACK - Rewind with three speeds (3x, 20x, 60x). Acts as single frame back when pause or slow in effect.
    RECORD - To record the program you're watching. This will also include any earlier part of the program that is in the Live TV buffer. The recording will stop automatically when the program ends. You can stop it before that by pressing the RECORD button.
    ENTER/JUMP - jump back to the last channel you were on, same tuner.
    DOWN ARROW - Jump to alternate tuner. Also available from the large channel banner.

    Live TV Program Guide
    DISPLAY - Shows panel to change guide attributes, including guide style to DirecTV Grid or Tivo Live Guide.
    BACK/FWD - DirecTV Grid Only: Page Left/Right to view past/future program schedule in 1-½ hour increments. Tivo Live Guide Only: When cursor is on the right side panel, listing programs for a specific channel, use as single channel up/down.
    UP ARROW - Tivo Live Guide Only: On the right side panel, listing programs for a specific channel, use UP ARROW to view past program schedule, as much as remains in the guide database.

    This Icon appears during a commercial for upcoming programs. Also works in recorded programs.
    THUMBS UP or SELECT - Will bring up Program Information Panel for upcoming program in ad.

    Music Channels
    DISPLAY or RIGHT ARROW - brings back song information after screen saver kicks in after 5 minutes of no remote activity.
  2. Sep 21, 2002 #22 of 233

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

    Jan 5, 2002
    Berkeley CA
    Just wanted to post about my experience on Fox last night in case no one else has posted this tip before.

    I had SPs for both Firefly (Fox) at 8:00 pm and Monk (USA) at 10:00 pm. I was tight on space, so I was planning to come home and catch up to Live TV so I could also watch John Doe (following Firefly) before TiVo had to switch channels to record Monk at 10 PM.

    Came home and discovered the Giants game was running over. What could I do to keep from missing some of Firefly?

    I could have dumped the partial recording with the Giants game, but I didn't want to risk it in case the game ended suddenly while I was in the TiVo Menus and I missed the beginning of Firefly. So I went into the 'change recording options' and extended the time by a half-hour, but then I re-checked the time. Still not enough time since the game had run over by about 32 minutes.

    So I went into the Now Playing List, dumped some stuff, and tried again. Nope, it still wanted to delete shows to make room for Monk at 10:00 pm.

    So Monk had to go. Since there are tons of repeats, it was easy to find another one. Took the 10:00 pm out of the Now Playing list.

    Then I was able to:

    1) pad the still-recording Firefly by a full hour
    2) save Firefly to VCR while watching it so I could delete it immediately afterwards
    3) watch the beginning of John Doe on the recording
    4) switch to the buffer to watch the end of John Doe

    I may have lost a second or so in the transition from the end of the recorder to watching in the buffer, but the transition seemed pretty seamless.

    Edited to fix a sentence where I left out some words. :eek:

  3. Sep 24, 2002 #23 of 233

    splinter New Member

    Sep 24, 2002
    Foster City CA
    I have just come aboard. Very pleased with the help afforded via yur insight into the inner workings of TIVO. Thank you
  4. Sep 25, 2002 #24 of 233

    ronsch Active Member

    Sep 7, 2001
    One additional tip for the last section of the original post. When searching for upcoming movies, I have made only the premium movie channels (501 - 550 on DTV) my "favorites" so I can search for movies that haven't been hacked to death to add commercials and take out "objectionable" scenes.
  5. Sep 29, 2002 #25 of 233

    Freyracing New Member

    Sep 29, 2002
    We have a 35 hour Phillips and my wife has season passes for HGTV this, and HGTV that, she can use up 35 hours in less than two days! Now my daughter is starting to record "the worlds most eligible bachelor," big brother throws out little brother and girlfriends, MTV, blah, blah.

    What do I do? We've got three tvs, all hooked up to the satellite; one DIRTVO, one sat receiver, and one that's ready to hook up to the sat.

    Do I need 3 TIVO's or a Divorce Lawer?
  6. Sep 30, 2002 #26 of 233

    mschwab Antique TiVo User

    Feb 20, 2000
    Well, unless you're going to divorce your daughter too, you definitely need 3 TiVos, and some expansion hard disks!
  7. Oct 7, 2002 #27 of 233

    sean808080 New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    nj burbs
    what an excellent post DMHinCO! thanks!

    this was printed immediately and was invaluable in my getting acquainted with my new S2 80 hour TIVO. I LOVE IT!

    thanks again!


    :up: :up: :up:
  8. Oct 14, 2002 #28 of 233

    lloydgm New Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    I just purchased a Tivo this past Saturday morning. :) As this was the first time I had ever used a Tivo (I didn't even test drive one, I was just told about it and I was hooked) the newbie excitement alone drove me throughout the weekend. However, I wish someone had told me this one bit of information:

    The first couple days are hard because you have close to nothing in your "Now Playing" list to watch.

    Every now and then while watching live TV I would go to Now Playing to see if anything magically appeared - and of course it had not. The upside is that at least one night had transpired and I had some things waiting for me on Sunday morning, and even one that Tivo recorded without me asking (which is AWESOME).

    So newbies, the hard lesson is: Be patient while your Tivo acquires your likes and in at least 3 days time (technically even shorter depending on your TV watching style) you'll no longer have to watch Live TV.

    I hope this is useful, it was hard learning it! ;)
  9. Oct 25, 2002 #29 of 233

    alan New Member

    Dec 27, 2001
    Chicago, IL
    great ideas! Thanks!
  10. Nov 3, 2002 #30 of 233

    SalBO New Member

    Jul 22, 2001
    Mt Airy, NC
    WOW, a great post and very informative. Thanks for taking the time to do all that work. I have had my Two DirecTiVos for 3 years now and feel like I am pretty profficient with them. I leared a a few things from reading this the first time. I am going to readi it again and I bet I find something else I didnt know......Thanks Again

  11. Nov 5, 2002 #31 of 233

    viperfin New Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Two viewers in your house? My wife and I have a system so we don't delete shows that the other may still want to watch. We got this idea from someone smart on this forum, but I forgot whom. After I watch something, I start back at the beginning and FF to 5 minutes into the show (and hit Pause to avoid the autocorrect). I leave it there. When my wife scrolls through and sees the show says "resume playing," she knows if it is at the 5 minute mark, she can safely watch it and delete it (or delete it if she isn't interested). If it is anywhere else in the show, she knows I am still watching it and not to delete it. It works the same with the shows she watches first.

    >> This advice seems to be the best current way to deal with the problem. But couldn't TiVo allow users the option of "marking" a program with one of the ten digits (0 through 9) as a supplement to the green light, yellow light, yellow exclamation system. After I watch a program, I mark it with a "1" that will appear on the Now Playing screen, meaning that my wife can delete it after she watches it. My wife uses "2" for same signal to me. Households could establish their own system for using the other digits. If households feel that this would "clutter" the Now Playing screen then they would simply opt to not use the marking feature.
  12. Nov 18, 2002 #32 of 233

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Newburyport, MA
    I was the same way last January 14th when I got mine.

    I guess one of the first rules of TiVO owning should be, run guided set-up, create you SP list and WL, and then take a 1 week vacation.
  13. Nov 23, 2002 #33 of 233

    Joey303 Gaga for Lala.com

    May 1, 2001
    Denver, CO
    :eek: A Simple Plan

    You know, when I posted it, it went without remark. I really thought that it went unnoticed.
  14. Nov 24, 2002 #34 of 233

    lanikai New Member

    Nov 23, 2002
    I am new here and wanted to thank you for the great post. Since I am having such a time getting started with my dinosaur Philips 14 hr TIVO, would you mind telling me if there is a site or board for newbies with set up problems? Thanks!
  15. Nov 24, 2002 #35 of 233
    Hunter Green

    Hunter Green Curmudgeon

    Feb 22, 2002
    I don't think there's a newbie-specific area, but this whole forum serves newbies. (I'd probably avoid the Underground area for a little while at first, though -- you'll know when you're ready to dig around there. :))
  16. Nov 24, 2002 #36 of 233

    lanikai New Member

    Nov 23, 2002
    Thanks Hunter! I am definitely staying out of there til I earn my stripes and get this puppy to actually work on my TV. Once I accomplish that, the upgrade will be inevitable. I am thinking of getting the newer one for the big tv, too. The prices are pretty decent with these rebates out there!
  17. Nov 28, 2002 #37 of 233

    Directv&TivoGuy New Member

    Nov 28, 2002
    DM - thanks for the cool info. I set up Tivo with my Directv last night and I am completely in love with it.
  18. Nov 29, 2002 #38 of 233

    flare782002 New Member

    Nov 29, 2002
    Spokane, WA
    can anybody help there. I am doing research for a college class project on Tivo and I want to know if any could answer these questions for my research.

    1. How long have you had Tivo?
    2. Who in your family uses Tivo?
    3. What do you most like about Tivo? What do they not like about Tivo?
    4. How many hours a day do they was TV? How much of that is with Tivo?
    5. Do you use TiVo mostly for selected type of programs? (such as sports, movies sitcomes) ?
    6. How was TiVO affected/changed their overall TV viewing habbits?
    7. Has Tivo affected your commercial view habits? If so how?

    If any of you have time and could spend a few minutes, copy and paste and submit these answers would be great appreciated. Thanks for your time...
  19. Dec 13, 2002 #39 of 233

    GoodN New Member

    Dec 8, 2002
    Studio City, CA
    This information is really helpful, especially when you've had a couple of days to play with you new TiVo. I bought Tivo thinking I'd use it as a "VCR" but now I see that its really more like a "smart" jukebox. And I can't wait until it figures out my preferences. (Why it recorded "Home Improvement" I'll never know!) Thanks.
  20. Dec 14, 2002 #40 of 233

    mich New Member

    Dec 12, 2002
    Columbia, SC

    Thanks for the info, but I'm still questioning whether or not I should get TiVo. I have a Sharp tv with one cable outlet in the back, and have a phone with only one 'jack' line in it as well. Is this a problem? I'm a bit confused.

    I guess I'm wondering what are the downfalls to TiVo? I have basic cable through my apartments and my channels kind of suck:) Does TiVo allow me to get channels I previously couldn't?

    And is it true that I have to watch what I'm recording on TiVo and can't watch live tv while recording something else?

    And is the lifetime membership worth it? I understand it's the life of the equipment, but what's the average lifetime?

    One last question - what do you think about the other DVR's on the market? Is TiVo the one?

    I love tv and I do have problems recording everything - so it sounds like TiVo is for me? What do you think?

    Thanks for your time.

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