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A/V Breakout Cable

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by andrews777, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. Sep 4, 2013 #1 of 102
    andrews777

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    Anyone know anything Amazon carries that will work in this area? I have one old TV with no HDMI that I want to hook to one of my new Tivo Minis. I had just bought a Roku HD2 and it had a cable that may work, but I would prefer one with component output.

    I can't find any specs on this cable and the "quick start poster" for the Mini lacks a lot of details.
     
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    andrews777

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    I saw that one. It has a fairly high price, but shipping is also high, especially just for that.
     
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    Dan203

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    andrews777

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    I wouldn't think so since yellow carries the picture and the other two carry the left and right audio, but I don't know how the Tivo component cable is wired.

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    I have the cable from a RokuHD2 that looks just like the one noted on Ebay. I can't get a good picture though. I have tried pressing the button on the bottom, but that just cycles through bad pictures. Any idea how I can get the A/V output to work on my older Emerson TV?
     
  7. Sep 4, 2013 #7 of 102
    don129

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    I just got that Western Digital cable from eBay and it works fine with the Mini.

    Thanks!
     
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    andrews777

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    Did you use it by itself? How did you get the video to come up? I can't get it to properly show the output with only an A/V cable.

    If you are using 2 of them, what colors did you match the red, white and yellow of the second cable to? I am getting a somewhat poor quality red or blue background depending on how I plug them in.

    EDIT: I am also getting a horrid buzz in the background using the AV cable. Does anyone know if anything can be done about that? Is buying a new HDTV my only option to use my Mini and replace my TivoHD?
     
  9. Sep 4, 2013 #9 of 102
    Dan203

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    Yeah I tried it on both ports. Works fine once you figure out the proper order for the connectors. (I didn't write them down sorry)
     
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    Scooby Doo

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    You are using the wrong type of cable. Each port has three outputs: one port has audioR, audioL, and composite video; the other has component video (red,green,blue). You are using a cable for a port with only two outputs and the video is mixing in with the audio. Probably best to use the breakout AV cable sold by Tivo.
     
  11. Sep 4, 2013 #11 of 102
    andrews777

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    I don't want to spend another $30 with shipping for another cable, especially when I have several of them here. I am fairly certain that A/V cables are fairly consistent at that level, though I have yet to find a component cable like they have.

    I found I had a few that were the same format as what they have that I have collected over the years, but they do all produce the buzz, so something is clearly off.

    It does look like even a seemingly higher quality cable I had (I think it was Apple's) produces the buzz when only the A/V inputs on the TV are used. I get a picture kind of like the old cable boxes where you could tell you were just outside the range, but it would never sync in.
     
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    Dan203

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    Most of these types of cables are designed for Apple products, which use a pin layout that is compatible with both A/V cables and standard audio cables. These have the ground in a different place then the TiVo cable. You're likely hearing the buzz because one of the two channels is touching the ground instead of the proper pin for the audio.

    The one I linked to above is <$5 with free shipping and works fine.
     
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    2trill4925

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    I used my breakout cable from a Seagate FAT+
    If I'm not mistaken Red=Video using Composite. Although I'm probably frying my cable/output port, I wouldn't recommend it long term. I'm not 100% sure on the order, and even less if you're running stereo audio (I think my kids will end up sending me to a nursing home for leaving their primary cartoon viewing to be done on an 80's Sony Trinitron).
     
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    Dan203

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    Component cables are the same as composite cables, they're just colored different, so you're not frying anything. As for having the order right if you get a picture then you have them right. If you mix up any two cables on a component video cable it'll either not work at all or the color will be completely off.
     
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    aaronwt

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    I wish I had seen this thread a few weeks ago. I ordered two sets of cables from TiVo which was around $40 shipped.

    I could have saved at least $25.
     
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    lessd

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    But with TiVo your getting 4 cables 2 composite sets and two Component sets, with Amazon your only getting 2 composite sets of cables.
     
  18. Sep 7, 2013 #18 of 102
    andrews777

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    2 sets? The Tivo page indicated 1 of each, not 2 of each.

    I will note that the Amazon works great. I got that and now have resolution on my old Emerson TV. Ironically I can get more display modes with the AV only connection, but the component one looks better.

    I used

    Yellow -> Green
    White -> Blue
    Red -> Red

    for using the Amazon AV cable to connect the component elements. It took some trial and error to figure that out, so hopefully this helps someone else benefits by knowing it.

    This seems like another overpriced addon option from Tivo (think DVR expanders) that could have been solved by using standard items.

    I do have much more cable there than I would like, but that will go back out of the way once I rearrange my setup later on.
     
  19. Sep 7, 2013 #19 of 102
    lessd

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    aaronwt said (post #16) he purchased two sets from TiVo, each set has two types of cables in the set, composite and component, it cost him $25 more than two Amazon sets, but he got 4 cables not two.
     
  20. Sep 7, 2013 #20 of 102
    andrews777

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    I see that, but I am not sure how that is different than ordering the same quantity from Amazon. You do have to figure out the color mapping I noted, but that is the only challenge.

    Of course I am assuming he is a Prime member of Amazon and has free shipping there, vs. paying for it with Tivo. Timeliness is also better with Amazon.
     

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