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A Review of the R10

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. Dec 17, 2004 #61 of 632
    Jerw134

    Jerw134 New Member

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    What a great son! :rolleyes:
     
  2. Dec 18, 2004 #62 of 632
    ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Well I am using the remote from my Philips DSR704... Most of the IR codes between the Tivo Remotes are the same.
     
  3. Dec 18, 2004 #63 of 632
    robgettier

    robgettier this here KarlMalone

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    Has anyone noticed a difference in resolution/quality of the Now Playing List screen (and other screens too).

    I have a R10 and a Hughes DVR80 hooked up on the same system. Once I started using the R10, I had a sense that something was different.

    Sure enough, when I switch the video source back and forth, I can notice a difference between the two. The R10 seems a bit more fuzzy and the shade of green on the NPL is lighter.

    Both these units are connected via S-Video to the same TV.

    Not a huge issue, but could the video output on the R-10 possibly be not as good?

    Rob
     
  4. Dec 18, 2004 #64 of 632
    Budget_HT

    Budget_HT Heavy User (of TiVo)

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    Does your TV have separate settings for each input? Some do, and that might cause the difference you are describing. Have you tried swapping the TiVo's between the two TV inputs?
     
  5. Dec 18, 2004 #65 of 632
    robgettier

    robgettier this here KarlMalone

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    I am using the same input on the TV. Each unit is connected to my receiver using S-Video and then there is one S-Video cable going to TV.

    The problem is mostly with the lettering. The lettering on the menus of the R10 is fuzzier than the Hughes.

    My wife confirmed my suspicion. She told me which one was fuzzier without knowing which was which.

    On further review, it may not be entirely that the lettering is fuzzier, but rather that on lines 4 and 5 of the NPL, there green in the background seems to be alot brighter at the beginning of the program title. This seems to be what is making it appear fuzzy (overall, it seems a bit more fuzzy, but this is contributing to it I think)

    This is a minor annoying issue. It looks a little crappy. But I also wonder if I am getting sub-par video when a program is on the screen.

    I was going to return the Hughes. This may change my mind.
     
  6. Dec 18, 2004 #66 of 632
    ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Flip the wires... Make sure it is not the S-Video cable degrading the signal..

    I haven't seen a different in resoultion at all.
     
  7. Dec 19, 2004 #67 of 632
    success2be

    success2be New Member

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    Earl,

    Does the 6.1 still have the save-to-vcr feature? I'm thinking about getting a DVD recorder to complement the DirecTiVo once DirecTV release the software upgrade.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2004 #68 of 632
    Blurayfan

    Blurayfan Active Member

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    Yes it Does.
     
  9. Dec 19, 2004 #69 of 632
    robgettier

    robgettier this here KarlMalone

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    I have done that. The issue stays with the receiver. Perhaps I got a bad unit.
     
  10. Dec 19, 2004 #70 of 632
    robgettier

    robgettier this here KarlMalone

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    What is most noticeable is the NPL on the R10 has a much greener tone than the Hughes. The Hughes seems to have a blue base and the R10 seems to have a green base. (This could be in the 6.1 software.) Has anyone noticed this? This may be what is causing the noticeable difference.

    Unless others have the same experience, my only option to satisy my concerns is probably to buy another R10 and compare two R10's. This is a pain.
     
  11. Dec 19, 2004 #71 of 632
    drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    rogbettier - I don't think you mentioned this, nor has anyone else suggested it: The problem may be the 2nd S-Video port on your AV receiver, the one you just connected your R10 to. I suggest swapping cables and ports on your AV receiver: Connect the R10 to the AV receiver using the cable and port your Hughes was on, and connect the Hughes to the AV receiver using the cable fro the R10 and the second port. If the problem goes away on the R10 and is introduced on the Hughes, then it's the AV receiver's 2nd S-video port.

    You could also try bypassing the AV receiver and directly connecting the R10 to the TV's s-video port, just to compare results. I don't know much about S-Video output signal strength, if there is such a thing, but I think the R10 was designed to be cheaper to build. Maybe there's an inferior S-Video connector and by putting the AV receiver between the R10 and the TV, some signal strength is lost? (Just reaching on this last one folks ... don't flame me if my head's up my arse on this!)
     
  12. Dec 19, 2004 #72 of 632
    robgettier

    robgettier this here KarlMalone

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    Thanks. I tried this. No dice.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2004 #73 of 632
    Ensoniq

    Ensoniq New Member

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    As a new owner of (2) R10 units, sorry to hijack this thread for a quick question about the One For All URC6131 remote:

    Can the URC6131 control (2) different DVR units that are in the same room? I have one of the TiVo Dual-DVR peanut remotes (with the 1-2 switch on it) that I've been using but it's falling apart. I thought about replacing it with the same unit in the cool translucent blue color, but thought maybe the One For All would be a better overall replacement with better control for my Broksonic TV/VCR/DVD combo.

    Thanks in advance for the info...and now back to your regularly scheduled program. :)
     
  14. Dec 20, 2004 #74 of 632
    ssalinas

    ssalinas New Member

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    I currently have a Hughes 40 DTV box. I went to CC last night to purchase the 80 hour integrated box. What is the difference/preference between the Hughes (HNS SDDVR80) DTV and the "Directv" (DTV R10) brand Tivo boxes?

    I only have one coax coming in from the dish to the TV. Is it possible to use 2 boxes on the same TV? How do I set that up? Can I record on one and watch tv from the other? Or would I just be better off placing the old tivo box in another room?

    TIA!
     
  15. Dec 20, 2004 #75 of 632
    Jerw134

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    The difference between the two boxes is that the R10 has the 6.1 software on it now, and the DVR80 has 3.1 on it now, but will be upgraded later. The R10 also has some slightly improved hardware, but nothing major.

    It's possible to use two boxes on the same TV, as long as you have at least two cables coming from the dish. You'd be much better off just running another cable and using one Tivo. Believe me, it's worth it.
     
  16. Dec 20, 2004 #76 of 632
    ssalinas

    ssalinas New Member

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    So the DVR80 will upgrade software automatically and it is safe to keep the 3.1? I've already purchase the Hughes and I don't want to even open the box unless I am sure it is basically the same quality as the R10? Is the GUI the same? I've been very happy over the past year with the Hughes 40 hr....
    What would you do?
     
  17. Dec 20, 2004 #77 of 632
    ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    The 6.1 software (which is on the R10), is just slightly different then the 3.1. Mostly with the addition of the Folders option/

    The R10 right now has improved performance, slightly because of hardware, but we don't know yet if the software is helping.

    So.... If you have the choice... I would replace it for the R10, but it is not the end of the world, if you stay with the DVR-80
     
  18. Dec 20, 2004 #78 of 632
    ssalinas

    ssalinas New Member

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    Many thanks!
     
  19. Dec 20, 2004 #79 of 632
    CsrLiz344

    CsrLiz344 New Member

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    I finally got my $49 deal from DTV, and they brought me an R10-I was shocked to say the least. The first thing I and the tech noticed was how quick it was to set up, he said he's installed many that get hung up for up to an hour. I noticed everything is way quicker, which I like, my Phillips can take awhile to do specific things. So far I like it, it was a nice surprise.
     
  20. Dec 21, 2004 #80 of 632
    Shape

    Shape New Member

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    I have 2 Series 1 Phillips boxes. Both of them blew out their modems in an electrical storm a year and a half ago. To say that they are SLOW is an understatement!! It can take a minute to get into now playing.

    What are the chances that I can get customer retention to replace them with 2 of these babies?
     

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