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6.4a is here

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by dcstager, May 17, 2008.

  1. May 17, 2008 #21 of 330
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    I'm watching Geraldo Rivera talking about Ted Kennedy and as soon as that's over, I'm going to force the update and report back. I'm sure it's a big nothing and I'll be re-imaging from scratch tomorrow. I hope CrashHD and/or the many others will look into creating a superpatch for this version. I'm prepared to be underwhelmed -- but I'll let you know. I read somewhere that you'll be able to use Tivo Desktop with this and enable/disable it at the Tivo site just like you do now with the standalone tivos. Something like that will be set up at the DirecTV site I think. A last gasp before the death of standard definition satellite.
     
  2. May 17, 2008 #22 of 330
    Gunnyman

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    I'm sure the super patch diffs will be discovered quickly.
    I just hope the HMO strings are back in
    I doubt they are, but hey I can dream.
     
  3. May 17, 2008 #23 of 330
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    Okay... 6.4a-01-2-151 has been installed and is working. Almost no visual difference at all to previous versions.

    Under Now Playing there is a Recently Deleted folder so you can restore programs you previously deleted.

    Under Channels, the channel list now looks like the latest standalone software. You have a channel list where you tag your favorite channels instead of a separate menu item where you pick your favorite channels and channels you receive.

    Under Recording, there is now an option for Overlap Protection which can be enabled or disabled.

    Under Audio there are some new choices about how to handle Dolby Digital which differ cosmetically from 6.2a

    Under Phone, there is no network option or network setup screen at all.

    MRV does not work anymore. I retained backported drivers and I can still telnet to it just fine.

    The 30 second skip feature can be toggled on and off as usual with Select - Play - Select - 3 - 0 - Select.

    I'm going to assume this is just a minor update/bug fix release - nothing major at all and it does not appear that the enhanced features promised by DirecTV as "coming soon" are in this software release.

    Maybe this will fix some people's rebooting problems. Not much to be gained by the upgrade. Okay superpatch people, do your stuff.
     
  4. May 17, 2008 #24 of 330
    Gunnyman

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

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    well of course MRV is gone, you aren't superpatched yet :D
     
  5. May 17, 2008 #25 of 330
    dcstager

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    Skagit...
    I didn't think of that. One thing I'm going to need some immediate help with... fakecall.tcl does not work with this version. "fakecall failed" is the response when you try and run it manually. I noticed that after rebooting it a few times and re-running tweak.sh to make sure all was in order - turns out it isn't. I noticed that the last successful call entry on the system information screen didn't update. Not sure what may be wrong or if there is a newer version than what comes with tweak.sh. Oh boy.

    Update: Alphawolf's fakecall.tcl from DDB works, so that's a relief.
     
  6. May 17, 2008 #26 of 330
    Dkerr24

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    6.4a... aka... beta test for our customers. Their motto must be 'Live on the edge, test in production'. lol
     
  7. May 18, 2008 #27 of 330
    T1V0

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    No..this is the release talked about by Directv. The listed features were recently deleted folder, remote booking, and overlap protection. I know you seem to think Directv will enable networking/TTG for directivo's, but trust me, it will NEVER officially happen. EVER. PERIOD. They never stated it would be made available. This is probably the end of the line for directivo users aside from bug fixes.

    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/globa...T=120-4H-070809final&m=1204H0005yn3m00407402d
     
  8. May 18, 2008 #28 of 330
    dcstager

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    How will the remote scheduling be implimented? Network connection or via dial in?
     
  9. May 18, 2008 #29 of 330
    Blurayfan

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    The remote booking is done over the SAT on DirecTV inhouse units. It may work through the SAT for TiVos too with this update.
     
  10. May 18, 2008 #30 of 330
    T1V0

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    That's certainly what it looks like. Delivering that information via the sat requires no customer interaction/troubleshooting, which saves directv time, money and human/technical resources. I highly doubt that DHCP functionality would have been broken (dhclient is removed) if networking were to be officially enabled.
     
  11. May 18, 2008 #31 of 330
    stevel

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    The MRV code is missing in 6.3 and later releases and cannot be enabled with a patch.

    Yes, the remote booking is handled over the satellite - no network or dialin is required.
     
  12. May 18, 2008 #32 of 330
    Gunnyman

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    has someone deconstructed the new tivoapp to see if perchance Tivo snuck it back in?
     
  13. May 18, 2008 #33 of 330
    dcstager

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    Skagit...
    Just to see what would happen, I went to the DVR scheduler section at the DirecTV site and tried to schedule a program. It said I didn't have the right kind of receiver and passed me on to a screen where I could upgrade. If the online guide click screen is ever activated for Tivo powered DVRs, it will be very nice. How they are going to do this over the satellite? I'm just wondering technically how it will be done - if it is ever done. The original announcement said Tivo DVR online scheduling "coming soon."
     
  14. May 18, 2008 #34 of 330
    magnus

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    I'm going to go out on a limb with you and say.... no they are not going to even do bug fixes.

     
  15. May 18, 2008 #35 of 330
    magnus

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    I would think it would work the same as ordering PPV over the website. It sends a signal over the satellite to authorize your boxes to be able to record the program. So, I would think the same would apply for online scheduling.


     
  16. May 18, 2008 #36 of 330
    dcstager

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    Yeah, that makes sense. Also, there have been times when I lost the locals and had to reauthorize at their web site -- it was just about instantaneous. It's just amazing such things are possible, so I suppose online scheduling isn't such a stretch.

    I'm wondering what changes are involved with the Tivo software concerning this? Since I've installed the latest offering, it must be there. I suppose that DirecTV has to set something up on their web site to add Tivo DVRs to their master list of receivers that can do online scheduling.

    As a note to others, the MRV keyring entry in /State/Keyring was not deleted during the upgrade. It may be just a vestige of 6.2a, but I'm still hoping the feature remains -- it's one of the most useful Tivo features going.

    I'm going to try Tivo Desktop and see if that syncs up with it. In the copyright notices for the new software it mentions inclusion of the Apple Bonjour networking stuff, so maybe there is some hope that networking in there.

    What was that mention in a previous post about all the wireless configuration options in 6.4a? They are not accessable by any of the menus, but I'm sure our online geniuses will find the patch to enable that stuff.
     
  17. May 18, 2008 #37 of 330
    RandCfilm

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    dcstager, you could really try to guinea pig your unit if you want to try these locations. I do not have 6.4a on any of my units. Please read before continuing

    POSSIBLE "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008" new location patches 6.4a only. This information is for persons with higher pay grades to confirm.
    DO NOT "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008" try these locations without confirmation from the higher authorities as I used a very crude method to locate the possible new locations. Unless of course you want to screw your unit.

    #No encryption (DEC) 1598904 orig 0c16a402
    #30-second skip (DEC) 6883312 orig 1440002b
    #Backdoors (DEC) 2806144 orig 00008021
    #HMO/HME
    (DEC) 906328 orig 00408821
    (DEC) 1119964 orig 00408021
    (DEC) 5874104 orig 14400014
    #Free Trial (DEC) 920520 orig 0c1445a9
    #OSD Message (DEC) 6895320 orig 0c3289f7


    If the jump to locations remain the same as 6.3f then this is what the command would be. TEST AT YOUR OWN RISK "confirmed by CrashHD only at this time 5-24-2008"

    Disable encryption:
    echo -ne "\x3C\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1598904

    30sec skip:
    echo -ne "\x10\x40\x00\x2b" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=6883312

    Backdoors
    echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=2806144

    HMO/HME
    echo -ne "\x34\x11\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=906328
    echo -ne "\x24\x10\x00\x01" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=1119964
    echo -ne "\x10\x00\x00\x14" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=5874104

    removes *TiVo Plus features (trial ends today)
    echo -ne "\x24\x02\x00\x00" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=920520
     
  18. May 18, 2008 #38 of 330
    T1V0

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    That's normal. the tivo won't rubbish a key unless it's explicitly looking for it. You can create an MRV key on an HR10 if you want, it just won't do anything.
    Doubtful. The Bonjour notice appeared in 6.3. Again, dhcp functionality was REMOVED from this release. That doesn't seem hopeful for built-in networking.
    I deleted much of that post to avoid confusion. Most of this stuff that we hack in is there because tivo has obviously modularized alot of their code to make compilation simpler. It's much easier to have a single code base for all machines, and just compile it differently for each platform. This is why there are remnants of SA features in later Directv sw versions. But, something as simple as './configure --platform-DTVS2 --disable-MRV' could add or not add the MRV portion of the code base.
     
  19. May 18, 2008 #39 of 330
    snickerrrrs

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    I'm not a guinea pig! I'm a human being! :D
     
  20. May 18, 2008 #40 of 330
    grecorj

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    This is great news...looking forward to both remote scheduling and overlap protection....
     

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