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6.4a is here

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by dcstager, May 17, 2008.

  1. May 17, 2008 #1 of 330
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    Checked the MFS of my Hughes SD-DVR80 and noticed that software version 6.4a-01-2-151 has been sent over the satellite. Have not seen mention of this or any discussion yet. It could be the update with the online scheduling, but I don't know.

    Superpatch people please get working on this one! I want to try the slicer on this...

    http://www.dvrplayground.com/article/13324/
     
  2. May 17, 2008 #2 of 330
    litzdog911

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    Hmmm. This may be the release we've been waiting for to provide Remote Scheduling and some other promised features.
     
  3. May 17, 2008 #3 of 330
    T1V0

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    dcstager, check your pm..
     
  4. May 17, 2008 #4 of 330
    Gunnyman

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    I have it on one of my units too
    I wonder if (please please please) they put the HMO code back?
    If it's there I'll upgrade both of my units. If not, I'm sticking on 6.2a
     
  5. May 17, 2008 #5 of 330
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    I haven't updated yet -- it's just there in the MFS. I am using 6.2a which is hacked with everything and running flawlessly so I don't want to change it. I use the MRV feature frequently, so I don't want to risk losing that.

    If Tivo Desktop worked on it, I'd upgrade for sure. I'm not interested in pulling things off of it and burning DVDs -- I want to be able to put things on it and watch things on the Tivo.
     
  6. May 17, 2008 #6 of 330
    Gunnyman

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    Mine is just in mfs too holding off on installing.
     
  7. May 17, 2008 #7 of 330
    schaeferp

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    Does this have the recently deleted folder?
     
  8. May 17, 2008 #8 of 330
    T1V0

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    Some interesting things in there..
    like the new '/tvlib/tcl/apg/GenRemoteRecordingData.tcl' script and some additions to '/tvlib/tcl/tv/DbEnum.tcl' for additional wireless security settings. Probably just leftover from the SA sw line this was split from.
     
  9. May 17, 2008 #9 of 330
    magnus

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    Well, I can't imagine that Tivo would release that kind of software.... MRV and Tivo Desktop that works with D*.... unless D* were going to place nice with them.

    It kind of defeats the point of having Real Tivo over DTivo.


     
  10. May 17, 2008 #10 of 330
    T1V0

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    Looks like it :
    Code:
    bash# strings tivoapp | grep Deleted
    /atlas_nowplaying/ui/NowPlaying/TvNowPlayingDeletedProgram.brf
    34TvNowPlayingDeletedProgramDocument
    /atlas_nowplaying/ui/NowPlaying/TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup.brf
    39TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroupDocument
    atlas_nowplaying:TvNowPlayingDeletedProgram
    22SiDocumentScreenPluginI13TvAtlasScreen34TvNowPlayingDeletedProgramDocumentE
    40TvNowPlayingItemCellCreator_DeletedGroup
    NowPlaying:DeletedGroup
    NowPlaying:DeletedProgram
    atlas_nowplaying:TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup
    31TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroup
    14SiScreenPluginI31TvNowPlayingScreen_DeletedGroupE
    also :
    Code:
    bash# strings tivoapp | grep Undeleted
    Undeleted by user
    Undeleted by user
    Undeleted by service
    this looks very much like similar strings found in 9.x software on my SA boxes.
     
  11. May 17, 2008 #11 of 330
    T1V0

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    I agree. A cursory glance at the software suggests that the only new features are the ones that were formally announced. I can't verify whether or not these things are actually activated yet, since I'm not upgrading either way.
     
  12. May 17, 2008 #12 of 330
    JimSpence

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    Can I assume that this will be coming to my HR10-250 as well? Since it seems to be following the SD series 2 units.
     
  13. May 17, 2008 #13 of 330
    dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    Skagit...
    I'm willing to be a guinea pig here and do an upgrade to 6.4a via slicer for the benefit of the Tivo community. However, my unit is zippered and I'd like some assurance from Gunnyman or T1VO or someone knowledgable that the telnet, ftp, cron/fakecall stuff continues to run. I forget exactly what slicer copies and preserves. I realize the tivoapp will not be patched and the recordings will be encrypted and so on, but it's essential that the machine operate without the telephone connection.

    Can anyone offer some reassurance on this to me?
     
  14. May 17, 2008 #14 of 330
    T1V0

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    tnlited (telnet daemon) is still in there and serial bash should definitely still work the same way. I have no idea what the slicer does or looks for since its source code isn't available, but this really shouldn't be much different than any other upgrade. the only issue I could forsee would be an incompatibility between the native usb drivers and a killhdinitrd'd kernel (similar to issues experienced by SA users when 8.1 first rolled out).

    My recommendation would be to do a very simple manual upgrade to just retain serial bash first, minimizing the initial hacking, and giving a chance to poke around with less fear of something going wrong. that way if there is a driver incompatibility or something like that, the chances of having to pull the drive are greatly reduced. this can be done with as few as 5 or so commands. pm me if you want some assistance.
     
  15. May 17, 2008 #15 of 330
    dcstager

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    Skagit...
    During slicer, it prompts asking if you want to preserve the backported usb drivers. Obviously, this release has some network drivers of its own. If I preserve the backported drivers, the killhdinitrd'd kernel should still work, right? I'm wondering if the new software requires a new kernel to work with the new features? If it does install a new kernel in the upgrade, I think I'm going to be hosed here. I don't know how to patch the new kernel if one is installed and I'll have to do it before it reboots but after the slicer installs the upgrade. I'm breaking the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" rule big time here. My system has never been more stable or useful as it is now. But... I'm probably going to retire it soon anyway because the standard definition video is so obsolete and the HD looks so good.
     
  16. May 17, 2008 #16 of 330
    T1V0

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    it should. that was the fix for 8.x users.
    very, very doubtful. these things are usually controlled by tivoapp.
    that's why you (or slicer) replace the new kernel with the one you had been previously using before rebooting the box.
    agreed. that's why I don't have any active SD directivos any more.
     
  17. May 17, 2008 #17 of 330
    T1V0

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    this does appear to be an issue. loading the 6.4a usbnet.o with a 7.2.2 kill'd kernel causes a crash. using backported drivers instead should work though.
     
  18. May 17, 2008 #18 of 330
    dcstager

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    Skagit...
    I'm pretty sure I have the 3.1.5 kernel on mine. I recall it had a problem with DHCP and I have to use static addressing. Since 6.4a has a full network configuration screen including wireless and encryption I'm just wondering if the old kernel will work with the new software's network features even if I retain the backported drivers.

    I'm going to sleep on it. I can always re-image to 6.2a and the TV season is essentially just about over anyway.

    I think I'm going to regret this...
     
  19. May 17, 2008 #19 of 330
    T1V0

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    DHCP seems to be broken in this release anyways, since dhclient and dhclient-script are missing just like in 6.3f.
    I doubt it has an actual network screen (without modifications at least). Networking should be easily hacked in though. I highly doubt official networking will ever be present on these boxes.
     
  20. May 17, 2008 #20 of 330
    Gunnyman

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    dstager
    Thanks for guinea pigging for us :)
     

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