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4 TB Tivos at Weaknees

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bobfrank, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    Read through the links in my last post. Both my Premiere and TiVO HD have 318 HD hrs. My Series 3 with it's original 250 GB and 1TB external drive only has 179 HD hrs.
     
  2. atmuscarella

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    Weaknees sells 4TB 2 disk solutions for the Premieres and for some of the S3 units. I wonder if they will be able to sell 6 or 8 TB 2 disk solutions for the Roamios?
     
  3. aaronwt

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    They had already mentioned they got a 7TB solution working. This was before they got a 4TB internal working. So it was assumed the 7TB solution used a 4TB external along with the 3TB internal drive.
     
  4. bobfrank

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    My HD only has 237 hours. Your HD is using all of a 2TB drive. That just means that between time in 2006 or 2007 when I upgraded my HD and the time when you upgraded yours that either Tivo made a change or new upgrade tools became available that allowed the use of the full 2TB.

    This doesn't change my original comment that there could be differences in the Roamio Plus and Pro that we don't know about yet, just like there were differences in the HD and XL.

    Some people are willing to pay the extra $30 to be safe.

    Never got a Premiere so I can't comment on that, but I'm looking forward to my 4TB Roamio.
     
  5. bobfrank

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    On the Weaknees blog that say they have an 8TB, 2 drive, Tivo working and hope to have it on sale soon.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    So maybe it's not a trick.

    Why would anyone need that much space?
     
  7. Goober96

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    I can remember saying that about my 30 MB hard drive in the 80s. :)
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah but unlike that situation we're talking about pretty static file sizes. In fact, if anything, video files are going to get smaller in the future as we transition to H.264. So that 8GB of storage is going to always hold 1200+ hours of HD video, and could get up to 1700+ with H.264. That's enough to hold the entire season of 50+ TV shows. At a certain point you're accumulating stuff you'll never even have time to watch.
     
  9. lessd

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    For most people your correct but some people like to have everything even though they will never watch all of it, I have to admit my family was like that when we changed to TiVos from VCRs I dumped (after a year) 4 or 5 big bags of VCR tapes and all (but one) VCR that is now not connected. So with TiVo they have to be more efficient as they can't just purchase another VCR tape for more storage.
     
  10. Keen

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    It entirely undermines your original comment:
    That difference was purely due to people not reverse engineering ways to expand non-XL drives as large as they could make XL drives. An entirely 3rd-party software limitation (as opposed to a hardware one) that was eventually overcome. The HD and the HDXL were identical. It just took longer to figure out how to expand the stock filesystem of an HD.

    At the moment, it looks like the Roamio is the same situation, except weaknees (and the hackers here, it seems like) are figuring out the filesystem faster, and so there's zero difference between the expansion potentials of all 3 Roamio models.

    But hey, you keep handwaving that there's some merit to your original comment, just like you have done for all of this discussion.
     
  11. aaronwt

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    I'm already at 65% of storage used on my Pro. A 4TB drive would be nice, but not at a $150 premium for the extra 1TB. Plus the My Shows list is now so long. I really hope TiVo implements profiles or something to help me control the list. Because just to find something from a week ago now takes more time than ever. I couldn't imagine filling up 8TB of storage with the current way the space is managed.
     
  12. mattack

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    I record *virtually* everything in SD for disk space reasons. With that much space (or actually 4TB), I might actually record most of the main primetime in HD.

    Though I admit nowadays I'm mostly just offloading things instead (though I did manage to kill a drive with tons of recordings.. at least most of it that I remember was musical shows and stuff I didn't care about *too* much). In the past, I have kept things seasons old, and gone back and caught up (I did catch up on a bunch of stuff from that drive I then killed -- I was carelessly using it as a bare drive connected to an adapter, and jostled it or something.. tried to recover, lots of I/O errors).
     
  13. Dan203

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    I remember back before they added groups. Even with a 30 hour unit that list got crazy.
     
  14. innocentfreak

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    True, but there is also the benefit of building your own VOD library. With enough space you can record whatever looks remotely interesting and worry later if you watch it or not.

    I do this with more and more shows now. I tend to park them until I feel like watching them or giving them a try.
     
  15. Devx

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    This. Especially for shows that look marginal or seem destined for cancellation, record it, just in case. Then if it survives, no harm done, and it can be watched from the beginning. Networks are so quick to cancel shows nowadays.

    Also, with 6 tuners, the 4+TB units could be useful for larger families and unconventional households. How they sort through that list or resolve tuner conflict is another matter entirely.
     

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