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30 Second Skip

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jtanenbaum, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Sure, I end up overshooting a bit, but I still think I'm WAY faster than FFing through the show.. e.g. pound on 30 second skip 6-8 times, then maybe one or 2 8-second back skips.. and I'm pretty much back at the beginning of the show. Even though I couldn't name it now, I think when I actually watch different shows, I end up knowing which shows need 6 skips, which need 8, that sort of thing. Plus, there are a few shows (Jeopardy, ONE of the commercial breaks after the halfway point of Letterman) that has or sometimes has useful bits during the commercial break.. so I FF those few shows.

    I don't have a Premiere, but I know (from a friend's Elite) that they do show e.g. "3:00" (something like that) when you pound on the 30 second skip 6 times. Still seems easier to me than 6+skip or something like that.. but I am not saying I wouldn't want that optionally too.
     
  2. bareyb

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    That must on the HD GUI. I'm not seeing that behavior in the SD GUI. It just advances like it does on the Series 3's.
     
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    That's if you have settings configured for "30 sec scan" instead of "30 sec skip" (works in either SDUI or HDUI). Repeated presses will build up the total scan time 30 secs per press. Personally I don't like scan as it's a slow version of skip or a crappy version of 3x FF so I soon enabled 30 sec skip via SPS30S backdoor.
     
  4. bareyb

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    Oh. Okay. I thought we were talking about the 30SS behavior. Yes, I've seen the time accumulate with the SCAN version. I'm not a fan either. It's too slow. 30SS and FF are much faster.
     
  5. mattack

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    Yeah, sorry, I was wrong.. I reconfirmed last night (was the remote master for a little while -- usually I take it when someone is asleep at the wheel and GASP starts watching a commercial) that it does the same as before..

    I was remembering when it was on 30 second scan before I fixed it for him (with his consent).
     
  6. robin50

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    And if a team has a quick huddle offense hit your back skip button before the forward skip (effectively giving you a ~23 second skip). If you hit the forward skip and then the back skip you might catch a glimpse of the next play.

    I returned two premieres I ordered (shortly after their introduction) because if the feel of 30 skip (S-P-S-3-0-S). From what I'm reading here it still hasn't attained the precision of the Series3. Moyekj I share your frustration about this.
     
  7. severe

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    For anyone having issues with their box, I've begun using 30 second skip on my Premiere and, thankfully, it seems to be as responsive as it was on my Series 3.

    Thanks for the SD menu tip.

    *Using the Slide Remote in HDUI, btw.
     
  8. SpikeDad

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    No, it's not as responsive as the 30SS on S3. I had a post about this a while ago but no one seemed to respond. I emailed Tivo Support just for laughs - no response.

    It's obvious that when you hit the skip, it takes a slight but noticeable amount of time to skip ahead. This becomes VERY frustrating when you need to skip multiple segments of 30 seconds as the skipping gets behind very quickly.
     
  9. bareyb

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    It seems to have something to do with the length of the HDMI cable too, or at least it did in my case. When I got my Premiere Elite I had it hooked up in the bedroom for testing with a short cable and the 30SS while stickier than my S3 was useable. When I moved it to the Living Room with the 25" cable, 30SS was all but unuseable since the video doesn't update with each click. I'm kind of stuck on one FRAME unless I... Push... The. Buttons... Really... Slow....
     
  10. moyekj

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    I always use component (not HDMI) and the problem has always been there on 2 different component-connected Premiere units. As I theorized in the thread I posted above I think it's a fundamental video decoding issue as part of Series 4 hardware. I still think S3 OLED units have the best mpeg2 decoding capabilities in the TiVo hardware line.
     
  11. bareyb

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    Hmmm.... Whatever the reason, I miss the HELL out of 30SS. I've sunk down to using FF now... I try to look at it as the price I pay to have four tuners.... :(
     
  12. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    By the way... Does using component bypass all that Copy Protection crap they put on TiVo? If I buy a UFC PPV (sports) it starts deleting it after 90 minutes... Is that an HDMI thing? Probably not, but one can hope... :D
     
  13. moyekj

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    No, that's TiVo honoring CCI byte settings (which they are required to do for CableLabs approval).
     
  14. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    I thought so... How much does it suck that the approval only applies to third party boxes? Comcast DVR's can keep PPV's for as long as you like. Of course there's only room for about four... but at least they stick around for awhile. :p
     
  15. mattack

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    I suggest complaining to the FCC about that. I have no citation, but if cable company equipment behaves differently than customer owned equipment, that sounds bad..
     
  16. bareyb

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    They already know. It's common knowledge. Just another way the Cable Co's have an unfair advantage. ;)
     

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