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30 Second Skip

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jtanenbaum, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. jtanenbaum

    jtanenbaum Once a New Member

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    I recently started using a new Premiere after my Series3 gave up on me. I love the Premiere's features, but detest the new style of 30 second skip. My other TiVo's skip feature (once toggled on) was a true skip. The Premiere is preset with this feature (no need to S-P-S-3-0-S) .. but, it is no longer a "skip." It is now simply a measured fast forward. This is much slower and much inferior to what we've had for many years.

    Anyone have a solution, or would anyone like to join my complaint to TiVo and try to get the old style skip back into the code?
     
  2. Drmunk

    Drmunk New Member

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    Switch to the SD menus. Enter the code(S-P-S-3-0-S), then switch back to HD menu's. :)
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It defaults to a 30 second scan. To get the 30 second skip, enter the code you listed. But anytime the box reboots, you will need to re-enter the code to get the 30 second skip back. Personally I used the 30 second skip for around 8 years and didn't think I would like the 30 second scan. But after using the 30 second scan for a while, now I can't stand using the 30 second skip.
     
  4. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    I like the scan also since you can see what you're skipping. Perhaps that's the compromise with the commercial folks.
     
  5. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    I turned off the stupid 30 second scan and used the old S-P-S-3-0-S code to turn on the old skip. It survives reboots.
     
  6. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Sorry then. It's been a while since I messed with it. I thought it used to be lost after a reboot.

    How do you get back to the 30 second scan? How is the 30 second skip disabled? Does entering the skip code disable it as well?

    EDIT: :eek:I guess it has been a while since I messed with this. I see the option in the remote control setup, under "Advance and Replay buttons" to enable the 30 second scan or the skip to tick.
     
  7. monkeydust

    monkeydust New Member

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    Thanks, I didn't realize that. I switched it to act like it works on my S3.
     
  8. jtanenbaum

    jtanenbaum Once a New Member

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    Thanks for all the answers. I am surprised no one had started a thread on this before.

    I had tried to see if the old code would toggle to the skip vs. scan and it did not for me.. but...DrMonk explains above that you need to do this while in a non-HD menu, so when I get home today I'll try again. Glad TiVo is giving us the two options, since some seem to prefer the scan and some the skip. I've used the measured scan for a month and really don't like it relative to the true skip.
     
  9. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    I haven't tried the 30 second skip on the Premieres in a while. IIRC, it wasn't as crisp and precise as it was on the earlier models. Is this still the case?
     
  10. jtanenbaum

    jtanenbaum Once a New Member

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    if by "crisp" you mean the "snap" forward 30 seconds instantly... you are correct, the as installed set-up is a fast forward scan (a measured fast forward) that takes a about 3 seconds to go 30 seconds. So, for a 4 minute commercial break it takes 12 seconds or so... not crisp as you say. As far as accurate, it appears to me to be very accurate.
     
  11. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I didn't phrase it correctly. I am referring to how responsive the Premiere is to each button press on the remote. With my S3's, the skip is instantaneous and you can really quickly hit it a bunch of times in a row. I seem to recall there being a slight lag on the Premieres, so that the feature wasn't quite as user friendly. At any rate, I guess I'll check it out myself this evening. :)
     
  12. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    It's still the same on Series 4 units and I never expect it to be fixed or even looked at by TiVo. It was first problem I noticed when getting a Premiere and posted a thread on it:
    Premiere 30 sec skip too slow
     
  13. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    Yep. That's exactly what I was talking about. Kind of sad that they never addressed this bug.
     
  14. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    Yes. 30 Second Skip is unusable for me on my new Premiere. The Video Frame never updates or updates too slowly to be helpful. I've actually had to learn to use the FF button with the "auto correct". The Auto Correct only works well for me if I'm half asleep. Otherwise I can't seem to slow myself down enough. :p
     
  15. monkeydust

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    So, I don't understand why people like the 30-second skip or scan. I switched mine back to the behavior you see on the S3 (just skipping to tick marks or end of show). I found that when I was trying to use the 30 second scan, I'd still have to do it over and over until I got to the point where the commercial was over but then could overshoot easily. It seemed just pressing fast forward and then play was quicker/more accurate. What am I missing here?
     
  16. jtanenbaum

    jtanenbaum Once a New Member

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    of course it is a matter of personal preference and what you get used to, but the 30 second skip is one of my favorite TiVo capabilities. After just a few days you'll learn that in most hour-long shows commercial break are from three to four minutes. There are exceptions (usually longer, not shorter), and you'll begin to know which shows tend to be different. So, with the skip, you can quickly hit it 6 or 7 times and usually get accurate results. Using a combination of the Skip and Instant Replay button, you can quickly find the restart of most shows. the more you use it the better you get

    Another tip: when watching a time shifted football game, if you don't care to take three hours and listen to all the commentary, you'll find that unless the offense is playing hurry up.. that plays occur about 30-40 seconds after the last down ends. the skip is awesome for watching a game and not missing any action. Use Instant Replay to adjust where you need.
     
  17. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. It all boils down to personal preference. I guess I got used to the 30 second skip back in my ReplayTV days. Of course, the automatic "Commercial Advance" was even better, but it's not like we'll ever see that feature on a DVR again. Another thing I really miss from ReplayTV was how you could skip forward or back "x" number minutes. That was a very handy feature.
     
  18. Number528

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    I agree, I usually do a quick 6, followed by a slow 7 and 8; then 1, 2, or 3 Instant Replays as needed.

    I had a Verizon DVR for a while that allowed you to set the amount of Skip time but my fingers were so used to 30 seconds I never bothered to change it!
     
  19. severe

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    Same here. Just to add, and I'm not sure if monkeydust is aware, that commercials are generally in 30-second intervals. This is why the skip function works so well.

    As the other guys described, one can get their technique finely tuned enough to where the combo of the skip and replay (should you overshoot a bit) give quick and accurate results.
     
  20. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    FYI, you can do that now indirectly using iPad app or kmttg remote but of course nowhere near as convenient as being able to do it from TiVo remote directly.
     

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