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3.0 Ethernet HowTos

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by zaknafein, Jun 19, 2002.

  1. ashu

    ashu User title defunct

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    You can ...
    1. Wait until the 4.0 rollout catches your system by surprise one of these nights
    2. Order HMO and force 4.0 to be downloaded in a hurry. My bet is you'll like it so much (especially since your'e networking your TiVo anyway) that you'll not want to return it within 30 days!
     
  2. lordbah

    lordbah New Member

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    Oh ... this magic "Upgrade Me First" button doesn't show up unless you order HMO? That would explain why I haven't been able to find it....
     
  3. antalo

    antalo New Member

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    I finally got mine working, by dishing out $99.- to TIVO for the HMO. After a couple of hours I did make a daly call and it downloaded the 4.0 (using the phone line). After it finished installing the software, did a manual reboot. After that it was a piece of cake. Setup the networking and my Linksys WUSB11 (wireless) works like a champ. I think I will try to get my money back, because they got some 6 song, or whatever and some pictures on. Have no idea how one suppose to put own pictures on. Didn't have time to read on.
    After I dished out the $ 99.-, I read that some folks did get the USB working by making some changes in the software. It was to late for me.
    Antalo
     
  4. azitnay

    azitnay New Member

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    If you really don't want HMO, go ahead and return it, but "have no idea how one suppose to put own pictures on" isn't an excuse. There exists very easy-to-use software for this feat. I'd recommend at least trying the M&P software and TiVo Central Online as well before returning it.

    Drew
     
  5. mlevin

    mlevin New Member

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    I haven't added networking to my tivo yet, but I'm very curious:

    after all the setup and changing the dialing string, WHERE does it get its program guide updates from? some website? some non-HTTP-based tcp service? is this provided by tivo or is somebody grabbing the data via dialup and then making it available via the internet?

    what's the url / ip address / etc. of this service?

    does it still require a subscription in that case?

    also, I read another post about the clocks getting out of synchronization if a real phone call is not made every so often -- is that still an issue?

    thanks
     
  6. porkface

    porkface New Member

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    The data comes from the TiVo company via TCP/IP, but I'm not sure if it's through HTTP.

    My clock hasn't become out of synch in the 2 or so years since I made the switch.

    People here won't help you figure out the URL or IP of the service because that's not important unless you're looking to attempt to steal guide data or build a firewall, and if you're looking to build a firewall that detailed you should be competent enough to figure out where the TiVo is looking anyway. Rest assured this method still requires a subscription.

    As far as I know, it performs the same transaction with the servers as it would over the phone line, because those scripts don't get altered when you switch to using the NIC (at least this was the case back when this was handled by scripts rather than compiled code).
     
  7. mlevin

    mlevin New Member

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    cool, thanks for the info. yeah, I could just set it up and then run snoop to watch the exchange... I was just kinda curious about the protocol, data format, etc. not trying to evade the subscription fees in any way... I will gladly pay the subscription fees -- tivo is the greatest invention of all time. who needs the wheel, fire or sliced bread?
     
  8. ghost

    ghost New Member

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    I'm having the same problem... did anyone determine why this isn't working on some upgrades?

     
  9. ghost

    ghost New Member

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  10. jfunkk99

    jfunkk99 New Member

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    So does anyone have telnet or ftp access on their Series 2 tivo?? I have a series 2 80 hour. I tried installing it but it doesn't work. I can ping it fine but can't telnet. I was reading that it's not possible in a series 2 but there has to be a way. Thanks.

    ~Joe
     
  11. rebthor

    rebthor New Member

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    OK, finally had some time to take a look at what is going on with it. In my /var/log/kernel, I am getting some strange messages. I don't know what to make of them, but they are obviously related to the problems I am having with my TivoNet card. Here is the first time network stuff is mentioned
    Then later on, I get a different set of ethernet/card errors:
    I am running software 3.0-01-1-000. Obviously the NE2000 card is not using IRQ29, but it is at 0x300. This card shows up and works in a computer as IRQ5 and 0x300. In my var/log/messages I keep getting DHCPDISCOVER messages on eth0, which obviously fails because eth0 was shut down by the kernel.
     
  12. TiVo-Thom

    TiVo-Thom New Member

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    Forum feedback requested; I located a straight-forward procedure for enabling networking on the HDPR2/3 www.hostfreedom.com/tivo/onepage.html has anyone performed this enhancement and what were the results, I'm particularly interested in the TiVo-Web, as my ultimate remote is eventually going to be that Viewsonic wireless touchscreen display, and have web servers control my HT!
     
  13. geagle

    geagle New Member

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    Tivo-Thom,
    I recently completed the network activitation using how-to located there at hostfreedom. There were some errors in the doc, but, I did get it to work. I would like to send the corrections to the author, but there is no contact info any where. The key correction for networking is: if you choose to bypass the serial terminal setup (not recommended), the directions do not have you enabling telnet or ftp in the hackinit. Won't work very well without these lines there :)

    Make sure any editors you use don't put ^M's in hackinit. I found that ftp from a linux box in text mode will do this at transfer time! (od -xc /var/hack/hackinit and look for \r chars near the \n's)

    Anyway, I've got the linksys USB200M adapter, but also picked up a netgear MA111 (its just so nice and small... would be really slick upgrade I think... just a tad slow for some of the thing done over this link) I'm working to compile modules for the wireless adapter. Has anyone done this??

    geagle
     
  14. TiVo-Thom

    TiVo-Thom New Member

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    No slowing than the serial port! :D
     
  15. TiVo-Thom

    TiVo-Thom New Member

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  16. brian3764

    brian3764 New Member

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    Hi all. I'm totally new to TiVO but I am excited that I have it and even more excited that this community exists to help people like me out.

    My question is pretty simple:

    I just got my DirectTiVo today and I waited to buy my TurboNet adapter until I knew what version software I have. I have seen posts that state that after ver 3.0, the OS is more equipped to do ethernet. Will I still need to remove the drive and reprogram it with my PC? I bought the TurboNet card from 9thtee. I'm hoping to do this with minimal effort as I am not THAT familiar with Linux though I am a programmer by trade (RPG on AS/400). Can someone give me an idea as to what I should expect to have to do?

    Thanks!

    Brian
     
  17. HerbM

    HerbM New Member

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    After having my Turbonet working for several months it still will not pass the Phone connection test nor download.

    Yes, the #, 401 is correct; it has an IP; it routes since we can use a network monitory to watch it talk to TiVo (or download pages from our web server on the public Internet), but the TiVo update server doesn't feed it new stuff.

    This has to go through ISA (and nat) but we see that working and the connection to the TiVo website starts until it requests service (almost looks like an "authorization" issue but I don't what the "correct" connection should look like.)

    Oh, we have a lifetime subscription too.

    Connecting (Failed. Service unavailable.)

    Anyone feel like making me a capture of this conversation and sending it so
    that I can compare it to my capture and try to figure out the culprit?

    Herb
    news@LearnQuick.Com
     
  18. TivoMad2003

    TivoMad2003 New Member

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    I currently have two networked Sony Tivos (2000 and 3000) and i use DHCP Turbo software...
     
  19. TivoMad2003

    TivoMad2003 New Member

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    OOPS wrong entry...dang anti-spam stuff

    I currently have two networked Sony Tivos (2000 and 3000) and i use DHCP Turbo software...

    Get it here:

    try weird-solutions dot com for the software :)


    go to downloads its freeware!
     
  20. BobNeub

    BobNeub New Member

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    After reading these boards for a few months I realized my TIVO had a problem...no Balls. Saturday, I ordered 2 x 120 Gig Hard Drives and all the stuff from 9th Tee to add ethernet to my TIVO. The procedure was long, about 10 hours becuase of fat fingers :rolleyes: . I first upgraded the Harddrives, resulting in Balls the size of Grapefruits, 278 Hours. I then proceeded with the instructions Steve put up here for the ethernet and all the cool network stuff. My TIVO is now available via the web, can telnet, ftp, the whole can of tomatoes. Need to add the video extraction stuff and the AIM stuff but it rocks!
     

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