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20.4.1 Release Notes

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. supasta

    supasta New Member

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    I have been getting audio drops on both my Roamio Pro and Mini since this update. The audio will just stop, as if it is muted. Live TV or a recording. Rewinding or skipping back a tick will correct the problem, and replaying the same section will have the audio intact.
     
  2. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Hello RCN TiVo Subscribers...

    Over the next 4 weeks we will be deploying a TiVo Spring Update to all deployed TiVo's, While most of the enhancements are UNDER the hood, it's does provide a foundation for some exciting items in the next few weeks

    D.C. and P.A. will Roll Next week. And in this release you will see :

    MultiSession VOD Support : Right now you can only have 1 VOD session per multi room deployment. Now under 2.8 you can have multiple. at least 3 VOD sessions streaming. (as long as you have enough Tuners to spare

    Slightly Improved Tune times on the Mini's.

    What to Watch now will provide more in-depth show details and information including channel number.

    C133 Errors have been modified to be less SCARY. So if there is a TiVo Backoffice issue and it creates a C133 error it won't tell you the world is ending..

    VOD and Other APPS will continue to work when C133 is happening.

    Some HDMI Enhancements and how Mini's reacted when there were HDMI issues. No more Mini Reboots.

    Once we get thru the 2.8 upgrade it will Tee things up nicely some very cool enhancements coming down the pipe.

    Also Those of you asking about the status of the 6 Tuner (Roamio) type solution, that project is very much in the works. There will be some substancial updates around that and many other exciting items coming in the next couple months...

    -Jason
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    Jason Nealis,
    V.P. Engineering and Operations

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29174023-RCN-TiVo-Spring-Update-20.8
     
  3. swerver

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    YouTube is broken for me, after this update. Netflix and on demand still work. Anyone else have this problem? Tried a reboot. YouTube logo loads but then nothing happens after that. Casting from phone does same thing. Both ways still work on my mini which got the update too.
     
  4. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I have that as well. Since it happens no matter what I'm doing, I feel pretty safe in saying it isn't due to my cable signal.

    If you want to (attempt to) get to the bottom of it, ask to be placed on log-monitoring for it, then use the 777-clear and 911-clear sequences to enhance what is logged, and place markers in the logs to help TiVo know where to be looking in the logs.

    Either TiVoMargret, or TiVo customer support, can place your TSNs into log monitoring. TiVoMarget is more likely not to argue and drill you about it, and the chances of getting a followup/follow-through, are also better.
     
  5. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    Is it present on the SPDIF as well HDMI? I can't say I've noticed anything, but I'm fairly exclusive SPDIF
     
  6. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I'm using HDMI and not noticed any audio issues in my setup. So at least for now it is fine.
     
  7. andyf

    andyf Active Member

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    Houston,...
    +1
     
  8. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    I'm exclusively HDMI w/Dolby Digital, stright from the Roamio to the TV (Sony, Samsung, & LG). I've tried PCM, but that doesn't fix it.

    If I had any other way to hook it up, I'd do so, but the base Roamio doesn't have all the additional outputs that the Plus/Pro do. I'm not feeling like buying the special breakout cable to try component w/analog.
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Hmm. I guess I'll find out tomorrow with my Roamio Basic if I have any issues. I will be taking it over to my GFs house and it will be connected directly to her TV over HDMI. At home my ROamio Pro and Basic go through a video processor before going to my TV.
     
  10. ahwman

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    I woke up this morning only to find some very odd things with my TiVo:

    • My Roamio Pro reverted from the spring update 20.4.1 back to 20.3.8 - where it stands now
    • All of my deleted programs had magically returned
    • My channel lineup customizations were set back to default

    I have forced several connections, however it does not see the 20.4.1 update. Is there any logical reason why this would have occurred?
     
  11. ncfoster

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    If you scan the forums, you'll see that many people were hit by this combo. Margaret from Tivo put the number at about 200.

    I think it should go back to 20.4.1, but I don't know how the other symptoms will resolve. :(
     
  12. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    I know it wont help here, but IIRC you were talking about the HDMI switches recently and having trouble finding a compatible one? I picked up an Inveo HDMI switch with SPDIF audio out (I14-42265) at TigerDirect that seems to be compatible. I originally picked up so I could get SPDIF out from my Roku, but seemed to work Ok with the TiVo (YMMV). My biggest complaint is the bright LEDs on the front. I've also wanted a HDFury but never bit the bullet. They have another product called DR HDMI that could help some of your other HDMI related issues.
     
  13. stannenb

    stannenb New Member

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    I hadn't noticed I'd gotten a software updated until, after my second random reboot while I was watching a recording while recording 2 programs. I checked, and it was new software. I've now had 3 reboots in the space of a handful of days, all while watching something and record 2-3 other things. Really annoying, especially since it hacks a small chunk out of the recordings.

    I'm assuming there's nothing I can do about his, other than hope Tivo notices, finds the bug, and fixes it, yes?
     
  14. ahwman

    ahwman Member

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    Thanks for the heads up, I though I had a ghost in my TiVo :D.
     
  15. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Thanks, I'll check into it. Right now, I just give the TiVos a direct-in, and use switches for everything else. Funny thing is that everything else works with every switch I have ever bought. It tends to make the TiVo look rather guilty of being the problem child, when every TV and every other HDMI-out device in the whole house works fine, in any possible configuration, all the way to 1080p/60...
     
  16. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Make sure you send Margret an email with your TSN so the TiVo can be updated again to the SPring update. Mine was back to the correct software a few hours after emailing Margret.

    This thread should have all the info you need.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=516488

    Here is the post that references the tweet from Margret with her email.

     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    We watched four episodes of Grey's Anatomy at my GFs house today from my Roamio Basic. It was sending DD over HDMI to her Vizio LCD set. We didn't run into any audio issues while watching those episodes.
     
  18. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    What output(s), as in resolutions were basic set to use/allow, and how old is the TV (rough estimate of manufacture date)?

    Any specifics help:

    1. TiVo settings
    2. HDMI cable revision level/spec, and standard-speed or high-speed rating
    3. HDMI TV port, which port number, and the revision/spec of the TV HDMI-in
    4. Anything that might explain why it's working

    Things that work fine, even on a switch (which I don't use for TiVos):

    1. 2 Roku 2 XS
    2. 2 WDTV Live Hubs
    3. 2 LG DVD Players
    4. Sony Blu-Ray player
    5. 2 Chromecasts
    6. Samsung combo DVD/VCR
    7. 2 Lenovo laptops w/HDMI-out

    All work up to 1080p/60, most support /24 as well.

    If you could willy-nilly hook all these up, even throw MonoPrice and IOGear switches in the mix, and use any HDMI cables, but 3 TiVos won't work with the switches, nor will they work well straight-in, what conclusion would you be headed towards?

    One thing I've picked up on, is that regardless of setting a fixed output resolution, once I enter Hulu Plus, or Netflix, the setting is not honored (or has cut-outs in the HDMI flow, where a change would take place if native was set). This causes the switches to cut audio and sound, making a pop with each change and change back, and I have to switch the switch to another input and back again, to get it back. So, I give the TiVos straight connections in.

    Direct HDMI in from the TiVo, I don't have to switch the HDMI input, but get the cut-out where the A/V is momentarily gone with a pop, then comes back with a pop.

    With Live TV and recording playback, the same thing happens as in the prior paragraph, but there's no reason to suspect the resolution changes, and it's not at the points where commercials start/end, but happens while watching programming or commercials. It doesn't discriminate, or only show up on some channels.

    I can watch Hulu Plus and Netflix all day long without any issues, on anything except my Roamios.

    True Live TV using the TV's internal tuners does not have these issues, either.

    Things weren't perfect before the update, but were better, lesser, and fewer & far between, once I set my fixed out to 1080i, as 1080p was just terrible. Now 1080i acts like when I had it set to 1080p, before the update.

    I was loving Netflix on the previous software and running 1080p/24 Dexter marathons at a solid SuperHD stream (I have insanely awesome internet, with 8 downstream and 4 upstream DOCSIS 3 bonded channels, and only use wireless for the chromecasts, and sometimes a laptop). Now any amount of RW/FF action tends to cause a reboot (although I get those doing just about anything one does with a TiVo, now).

    Any logical explanation for this? Why is the TiVo not playing well with anything?

    It's not the cables. I'm on my fourth brand, and I've only been trying different ones to try and make the TiVo work like anything else I have.

    I'm not bashing TiVo, or looking for a fight. I just want to get to the bottom of this, and be clear that things were better for me before the update.

    I was not affected by any rollbacks, but cleared my RD folders, just in case I would be one of those to get hit by that.

    The hard drives have been tested, both in and out of the TiVos. They are 3TB WD Red NAS, which support the same AV-function as the AV-GP drives (which TiVo doesn't even utilize).

    I have also tried hooking up nothing but the TiVos, leaving everything else disconnected from the TVs.
     
  19. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    My Roamio Basic is set for one output resolution. 1080P60

    The HDMI cable is at least five years old. So whatever was out back then. But it has worked with the advanced audio codecs from a BD player before.

    HDMI input on the TV is HDMI 3. But that shouldn't make a difference.
     
  20. morac

    morac Cat God

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    I haven't heard any audio issues either on My Roamio Pro with the new software (or the old for that matter). My Roamio is set to 1080p and connected to an Onkyo 7.1 receiver via HDMI. The audio does go out for a sec when jumping between full screen and the HD menus, but it's done that for years and the software tries to compensate by rewinding the video slightly.
     

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