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20.3.8 Release Notes

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Dec 17, 2013 #81 of 125
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah how come the Moviefone app doesn't have show times?
     
  2. Dec 17, 2013 #82 of 125
    CoxInPHX

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    I am seeing that this is helping quite a bit, I have many Test SDV recordings daily, and not one has failed. Tuning to SDV channels now seems to take a bit longer, but the video finally tunes in. I have not had any tuning failures. (Knock on Wood)

    Looking good so far.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2013 #83 of 125
    crxssi

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    It is annoying. I am pretty sure I went in and turned it off once before and it came back. Shouldn't it remember that I want it off? Strange.
     
  4. Dec 17, 2013 #84 of 125
    Dan203

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    Maybe the new app got a new internal ID and as such the setting didn't carry over? I noticed it only happened for AOL and not the Web Hot List app, so it doesn't seem to be a universal problem.
     
  5. Dec 17, 2013 #85 of 125
    ustavio

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    Try backing out to the Netflix menu and exit. At least get out of the show itself. Also try Clear and see if you still have a reboot.

    Sound can be sporadic at times. Try hitting "info" when this happens and see if you're getting 1080 (when you're supposed to) or 480 (when you're supposed to).

    I have found that backing out slowly helps mitigate reboots. Seems that the Roamio doesn't like zippy, clickity jumping around a lot.
     
  6. Dec 17, 2013 #86 of 125
    bbbbb

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    Could you please fix issue with moca+encryption resetting/disabling after every update? Every time tivo pushes an update my mini and roamio moca has to re-setup. It's a pain...
     
  7. Dec 18, 2013 #87 of 125
    c3

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    WiFi seems to have gotten worse with this update. I had to reboot my Roamio for the second time in the past few days to get network connectivity back.
     
  8. Dec 18, 2013 #88 of 125
    anthonymoody

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    Same here.

    I was going through a list of shows that TiVo incorrectly records (it records repeats even though I have it set to New only; I know it's a guide/hgtv issue, but still frustrating). Anyway I was deleting them one by one. After the first 5 or 6, it started to behave normally.
     
  9. Dec 18, 2013 #89 of 125
    dave13077

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    This has helped quite a bit but I still have had tuning failures. Not nearly as many as before so it is definitely a big step in the right direction.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2013 #90 of 125
    Bierboy

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    Who is "you"? This isn't a TiVo company forum...
     
  11. Dec 18, 2013 #91 of 125
    pshivers

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    And NBA League Pass and I can sell my Roku 3!

    I noticed that after the update also with the Roamio in my SIL bedroom. Signal strength was 75% (Good) but would not reconnect to my wireless router. Rebooted the Roamio and wireless connected immediately at 100% signal strength (Excellent). :confused:

    Interesting side-note, I was able to stream a Lakers game directly from my SIL's wireless Roamio to my wired Roamio Pro, No pauses, no buffering, no messages it couldn't do it because of the wireless connection...

    I should be getting a new Actiontec MoCA adapter tonight so the SIL's Roamio will also be on the MoCA network once again.
     
  12. Dec 18, 2013 #92 of 125
    mrizzo80

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    Anyone else have some apps that show up outside the "action-safe" area? TechCrunch (navigation text on the left hand side gets cut off) and the new AOL On (icons on the left hand side get cut off) both exhibit this on my TV. I think some of the older apps also have this, but I don't remember which ones.

    Not a huge deal. Could just be my TV I suppose.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan#Overscan_amounts
     
  13. Dec 18, 2013 #93 of 125
    Dan203

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    I'm seeing this too.

    I wonder if I can set my TV sot show the whole picture?
     
  14. Dec 18, 2013 #94 of 125
    brianric

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    Same here.
     
  15. Dec 18, 2013 #95 of 125
    tim1724

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    Yes, most TVs can be set to show all the pixels, at least on HD signals. I just had to adjust a TV today to do so (it's connected to a computer and the edges of a web page were cut off)

    Every manufacturer labels it differently in their menus but if you poke around you should be able to find it.

    I always do this. The only problem is that some channels broadcast garbage in the top or bottom scan lines. I think this is the main reason HDTVs still default to overscanning — to avoid displaying that crap. (I just put up with it. My girlfriend and I find it more annoying to have parts of the picture cropped out than to have the occasional flickering scanline on certain channels.)
     
  16. Dec 19, 2013 #96 of 125
    nooneuknow

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    More than likely, or in the majority of cases, the answer is yes. The following info is with 1080P native resolution TVs:

    You set display area to "full pixel" on a Sony TV (old and new, alike). I have a Samsung TV that calls it "just scan", which does the same thing. The setting stops the TV from adjusting the overscan/underscan. On the Samsung, it is an option easier to get to, where you select "just scan" as opposed to 4:3/16:9. It forces the TV to just display the signal it receives natively, leaving the aspect ratio adjusting to the input device. I've seen it work with both brands of TV when the signal is through HDMI (always works), as well as component (not composite), so long as the input is a natively supported signal.

    "Full Pixel" and/or "just scan" stops the TV from adjusting the display area, which results in the TV displaying the signal EXACTLY as it is sent to it. The downside of this is you will sometimes see a scan line of noise at the very top of the screen, that has black and white segments jumping around (this noise is macrovision, or other protection placed into the signal), and you may sometimes see tiny grey lines on each side of the screen, usually only when the sides of the picture are black, or very dark. These downsides are usually minimal distraction with any 1080 format, but more distracting if the format is 720P, which can be minimized by disabling all resolutions below 1080 (on the input device, itself).

    When you force the TV to use the signal as-is, you also improve the quality of the picture, since you eliminate the reprocessing that happens when you allow overscan/underscan. The pixels end up exactly where they were meant to be, instead of being zoomed out of their native position, to eliminate the noise/bands insuring you don't see the noise around the edges.

    If macrovision, and other protections, were not present, the TV manufacturers would use native display as the default (for best picture quality), as opposed to defaulting to insure that CP noise and light edges on the sides of dark scenes wouldn't be visible.

    Hopefully this will help many people. I love that I can force a Roamio to only output my TVs native resolutions of 1080P/60 and 1080P/24. This, combined with forcing a native display of the signal, makes all my TVs seem like I just went out and bought new ones.
     
  17. Dec 19, 2013 #97 of 125
    CoxInPHX

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    It took you 4.5 hours to type that? :D:D;)
     
  18. Dec 19, 2013 #98 of 125
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    I guess I was wrong, now that you point that out. :D :D ;)
     
  19. Dec 19, 2013 #99 of 125
    slowbiscuit

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    I think it's actually the closed caption or PSIP data, because it appears on OTA channels which have no protection.
     
  20. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Could be... I researched it on the AV-related forums, and came up with the same explanation from multiple sources, then did some Wikipedia research to help verify that I understood correctly.

    But, I don't dispute that you've seen what you've seen. Perhaps that top line (or those top lines) are used for multiple uses, that assume nobody will see they are there. It would make sense to make use of that space, if available, for other uses.
     

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