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2-Tuner Support Not on the Roadmap

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by sbiller, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    I think that is obvious. Of course, this forum is full of conspiracy theories claiming TiVo obviously hates 2 tuner users or they want people to buy the XL4. But the fact is, most of the decisions were made so that the experience from the Mini and the host box are what users expect.
     
  2. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Only problem with that is... I would not plan to use any tuners. I just want to watch recorded shows and IPTV (Netflix and Amazon). So, I would not be changing the DVR experience on my 2 tuner box. I think Tivo should let me decide this.

    Anyway, unless they have an OTA box with 4 or more tuners and a good deal on the box for those of us with 2 tuners then I guess I am not going to be getting this product. It's a shame because I was excited about the possibility but now I'm just not as happy with Tivo as I once was.

    Ideally, they would just create or allow a Roku or Apple TV app that would allow us OTA users to stream our recorded programs.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Neither of those devices support MPEG-2 encoding, so you'd also need a TiVo Stream which is an additional $130.
     
  4. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Yep, I have one of those. I really like it too. I've used it a lot on my trip and caught up on a lot of TV.
     
  5. tre74

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    Well, I guess I'm out of luck. I had picked up a Stream and thought I could download a show from my 2 tuner Premiere and mirror it to the TV via the Apple TV. Anybody who tried this saw a message that the feature was not supported in the TiVo app. I figured I'd wait and pick up a Mini when they were released. Now, it seems I am still out of luck. I'm OTA and am not interested in getting cable and buying a new TiVo just so I can by a Mini. I had hoped that I could just send recorded shows to the Mini and not worry about tuners, but I guess that is not an option. Oh well, still love my Stream.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    FYI: You can use AirPlay with a TiVo Stream if you jail break your iOS device. If you're the hacker type.
     
  7. tre74

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    I did read that somewhere, but I'm sure I'd screw it up. Still, I like tinkering with stuff. Hmmm. Thanks for putting the thought in my head. I'll know who to blame when I brick the iPad, lol.
     
  8. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    That seems like around the building several times to get in the front door. :)
     
  9. lew

    lew Active Member

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    Why couldn't you use the tuner in the TV set for live OTA?
     
  10. tre74

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    Antenna is hooked to TV and TiVo in living room. I really don't want to get on roof and split signal and run another cable to the bedroom. I can live with live TV only in the living room. I have an Apple TV, blu-ray player and DVD/VCR combo in the bedroom for watching other stuff.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Wasn't me! :)

    No pause or instant replay that way.
     
  12. rainwater

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    The Mini wasn't designed for you. Most people expect when they install a cable box that they can watch live tv. And since this box is designed for cable MSOs, it makes exact sense why they designed it the way they did.
     
  13. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    At one point it was designed to do most of what I wanted it to do and then they changed it.
     
  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    This was a business decision, not a technical one. They decided that it was easier to require a 4 tuner box then to explain why it couldn't do live TV on a 2 tuner box. Both options have downfalls. They chose the one that made the most sense for their business.
     
  15. Bigg

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  16. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Have you heard of a these little events known as LIVE SPORTS? Not quite the same when recorded :rolleyes:
     
  17. aaronwt

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    What's that? I still want to skip over commercials. No need to watch any sport event live, unless you are physically at the game.
     
  18. freerule

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    Thanks Dan, even though the answer is negative. The main reason behind the earlier post was to get a definitive answer to the implied question in that post.

    It wouldn't be worth $900 for me, but I wanted to know if the proposed configuration would even work. Too bad!

    The current versions of TiVo are essentially upscale cable box replacements. OTA capabilities apparently don't generate enough revenue to be viable for TiVo Inc. as a continuing business model.

    Sadly, it appears I've bought my last TiVo product.

     
  19. moyekj

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    I never got a good explanation to why that is. As long as you have no inkling about the result what does it matter? It's not like you watching live or not has any influence on the result unless you are overtly superstitious. If that is the reason then the only way to really watch it without time delay is at game itself since the broadcast adds delay, DVR adds more delay, etc. so if watching on TV you are NEVER watching it live.
     
  20. innocentfreak

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    Heard of them but don't get them. I also don't understand why some people feel they can't watch them delayed.
     

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