I'm actually looking forward to this new UI. One of the things I hated about leaving behind SageTV, MediaPortal, and Kodi(XBMC) was the boring interfaces in the DirecTV, Dish Network, and Tivo DVRs. I needed to go to something that was an appliance or my wife was going to throw me out, but I miss some of the bling.
Comcast VOD will not do that for me so once when I wanted to watch a SHO program because I did not record it, I had to keep a pad next to my TV chair that had the 8 episodes marked and I would cross off each episodes after watching it, a pain if I had to do this with a lot of different programs.
When looking at episodes of a show in On Demand with Comcast there is a blue bar under any watched episode that says "Watched". There is nothing to have to keep track of.
Given TiVo's codename for Mavrik was "Mantis"... which turned-out to be a headless device for proxying recordings to the cloud(?), I think I'll withhold judgement on "Hydra" until I see it, keeping hope alive that its "multi-headed" aspect is realized as actual user profiles... rather than the heads being different data sources (Netflix, recordings, etc).
Bleh, not a fan of this look at all. About the only thing I like is having the apps section on the top menu and not buried in the my shows section. But then they go and stick YouTube and Netflix on the top menu by themselves. I hope these can be removed/replaced with app of our choosing and this won't become some high bidder's advertising spot.
Profiles default back to ALL Users after 30 mins. All Users uses the all channel list and a combined Tivo Suggestion list from all Profiles.
To activate a User profile PRESS AND HOLD the 1 Key for User One, 2 Key for User Two ect . . .
When a User Profile is Activated NOTHING changes, the User does not notice any changes other that a small banner at the botton saying User 1 Profile activated for 30 mins
WHAT DOES CHANGE is stuff in the background
1. Tivo Suggestions
2. Guide Data (Users can hide channels they don't like).
3. User Preferences like normal guide or grid
4. Fav channels
There would be NO need to log off or start over like you do with Netflix Profiles. It would be automated and seamless.
AND
Best of all if you don't like Profiles, just don't use them so the customer gets the choice.
Call it " User Profiles Lite"
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Profiles default back to ALL Users after 30 mins. All Users uses the all channel list and a combined Tivo Suggestion list from all Profiles....
Ideas or Suggestions?
I don't see the need for a special profiles timeout; just keep the existing inactivity timeouts, but if custom profiles have been added, the user would need to select their profile on resuming.
And, yeah, if no custom profiles are added, the system wouldn't look or operate any different than presently. And the "No Profiles" view could always be the default on restarting the system, though it *would* be nice if the customer could select an alternate, preferred default profile. Oh, and parental controls still need to be applicable, restricting access to non-child profiles unless the parental controls PIN has been entered.
These are the people who are making all the decisions of the new TiVo. Management Team | TiVo
All of these people are from Rovi and some even worked for Gemstar TVGuide.
Not true. All of the product team reports into COO Pete Thompson who was hired after the acquisition so it it factually untrue that he is from Rovi. Likely the single strongest influencer of projects is from neither legacy and has direct reports from both sides.
I have profiles already, called two TiVos, one for me and one for my wife, and we can watch what the other recorded if one of us missed something we both wanted, great but I guess now expensive as lifetime is $550.
Ya best thing that ever happened to my patients was when I moved out and my mother setup my old bedroom to be a TV room and they bought a second TV. Sharing TVs or TiVos is certainly not optimal.
To me Hydra looks good. Not that I am unhappy with current interface, but it is time for a change, and keeping up with competition, industry, millennials, etc.
Please don't insult my live guide. I wouldn't dream of saying the grid guide is stupid (yes I know he started it..)
Yes, we're some of those "misguided" people who prefer the live guide over the grid guide (probably due to having TiVo's for 17 years), but we rarely use the guide at all. I don't think my wife ever opens it and I might look at it once every 2 to 4 weeks.
I wonder what the long term effect this will have on the resale value of the boxes. For example if I switch to the new interface and then sell the box a year later the new owner will have to live with predictions based on my families viewing.
I actually emailed Margret a 2nd time last week regarding an incorrect channel, after it had been a month since I submitted the original guide channel change error Tivo made a month ago. I got a phone call / voicemail from the Tivo Executive team Friday. I was in a meeting and couldn't answer and it was late when I finally got home, so I'll return the call Monday.
They tried, but they were scared of my six shooters. LOL
Yes I got 3 calls Monday and today when I got home I saw a lineup change on my Tivo's. Of course they screwed that up, so I will be calling the ERT number they left me to see if someone can actually type exactly what I tell them. I thought I spelled it out clear enough on Monday and in the emails. The channel was labeled incorrectly for Cox as KTUL24-LD2 when it should have been labeled as KTULDT2. Today they labeled it KTUL2, so it has to be announced in the guide.
Cox has this channel in 3 spots in their guide. It was correct in the 1400's and they didn't change that, but still incorrect in the 2 channel areas that 99% of Cox users use. It's labeled correctly in the OTA guide too as KTULDT2 also. I don't know why it is so hard to get it right.
Couldn't disagree more, I'll never sign up for this. I don't want freaking tiles in my shows and I sure as hell don't want Tivo suggesting anything for me given the total waste of space that is the discovery bar.
I finally watched the TiVo Hydra youtube video. Lots of stuff about what is on now.
Funny thing is, on my current Roamio Basic using an antenna, when I select "What to Watch Now", the result is "Unexpected Problem", contact TiVo. Since I almost Never watch live TV, other than local news, its never bothered me that it did not work, I am not interested in what is on now. That is the whole purpose of a dvr, Not to end up watching what is on now.
I certainly do not want to talk to a human about it, I figure they will try to sell me some crap or ask me a bunch of questions that I probably don't want to answer.
I keep watching the video and there is a lot to like. My biggest fear is that a change this dramatic will not be easy for my wife to adapt too. This is much more significant than the SD to HD shift.
I like that you can customize the list in the main menu and include APPS in the list.
I like the size of the video preview screen - less interruption
I like the predictive suggestions based on time of day / day of week. (Predictive Profiles)
My Shows: My shows seems to be the familiar list. Think if the top filter bar as an extension of the side bar in today's world. Only difference is when you open a "folder" it shows the seasons as a vertical set of thumbnails. The pro for that is it does not increase the length of your list and does not require a click to enter a "folder" (see images below)
Automatically puts you on the last show watched.... No searching the list.
What to Watch: Discovery is much improved - especially in the streaming world.
App presentation is much improved from the old list model
left, right, up, down - not really intuitive; I think I can remember it, but would probably choose the tuners view and never use the others.
Toaster notifications instead of popup screens that have to be manually closed - can I say yes enough?
Ultimate they flattened the navigation quite a bit with a lot less drill down menus that need to be navigated into and out of. And that alone makes this an improvement in design.
Take a look at these two screen prints. The presentation language is similar, they have gotten rid of the aging skeuomorphic presentation and eliminated manual drill down clicks. The more I see this, the more I think they made some interesting design decisions. How is the new presentation not significantly cleaner?
I keep watching the video and there is a lot to like. My biggest fear is that a change this dramatic will not be easy for my wife to adapt too. This is much more significant than the SD to HD shift.
Refresh rate is going to be important to me - lots of images cannot translate into lots of lag.
But as I said in my thread above - in this reference you can tell that TiVo has tried to eliminate a lot of the drill in / navigate out dialogs. That is a huge improvement over the existing legacy design.
Refresh rate is going to be important to me - lots of images cannot translate into lots of lag.
But as I said in my thread above - in this reference you can tell that TiVo has tried to eliminate a lot of the drill in / navigate out dialogs. That is a huge improvement over the existing legacy design.
I agree. Coming to TiVo after having previously used DVRs from DirecTV, AT&T and DISH, I found the TiVo UI's insistence on dialogs/confirmation boxes to make tasks needlessly complicated and wordy. I got used to it over time but it will be nice if the new Hydra UI streamlines things.
nope some overseas cable provider is supposed to be first
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