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Homeland | "Yoga Play" | 2013-10-27

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#1 ·
Enjoyable episode. Thank god the Dana drama is over.

So just who is the Iranian head honcho who nabbed Carie?
 
#4 ·
The only person in the CIA that really knows who he is, is Saul (and the Muslim analyst).

And yes, Saul knows he's in the country.

The entire point is that this nobody knows who this guy is, but he's funding many other terrorist organizations (i.e. the six guys that got assassinated the same day). Saul and the analyst "followed the money" to figure out it's this guy that nobody else knows about/suspects.

eta: Didn't see your smiley.
 
#5 ·
wouldn't the CIA be alerted that he's in the country? :)
He entered the country from Canada at a small border crossing in Vermont under a false identity and immediately changed cars. I guess the only way the CIA could know is if a camera caught his face at the border crossing and facial recognition ID'd him. I did not see any cameras that would have gotten a good view of his face, though.
 
#9 ·
Is this going to be another season where one of the most wanted people in the world is going to travel around the Washington DC area unnoticed or undetected?
But that's the point -- he's NOT one of the most wanted people in the world. To everyone else, he's just a rich owner of a soccer team. Nobody (in the US,except Saul, Carrie, Quinn, and the analyst) knows he's actually the financier of terrorism out of Iran and responsible for the attack at Langley.

The CIA took out the top 6 operatives of his organization at the same time (his "business associates" -- "take them, take them all"), but at that point they had no idea who was at the top.
 
#12 ·
If by "emo kid" you mean her crazy bf who had escaped the mental institution, I think that we can assume that he was arrested when Dana turned herself in to the responding officer.
Sure, and he'll get out in 3,2,1.

They are predicting that Nick Brody will contact Dana first.
 
#13 ·
No, I think they're pushing Dana to a point where she becomes a "Patty Hearst" type. First, she's abducted as a negotiation pawn, but then flips and starts working with her abductors. Her abductors being the same group Brody is working for/with. So despite her anger for Brody, she ends up working with him, whatever he's doing. She's already predisposed to Islam.
 
#17 ·
This whole setup "play" really annoyed me. So we are to believe Carrie is as good an actress as Claire Danes? Don't think so.
The way I see it, she (Carrie) didn't have to do a whole lot of acting. All she really had to do was be herself, right up until she met with Nancy Botwin's second husband. That meeting was the only point at which she had to act against her real self, and by that point they (the bad guys) had pretty much already bought into her cover.

If the CIA needed me to, I could do a pretty convincing job of acting like a married, middle-aged director of technical design for an American textile manufacturer.
 
#21 ·
I don't know why you guys are spoilerizing that. The lie detector was on the table next to the terrorist when he made the comment about the yoga class. That was in this episode and there is no need to spoiler tag it.

That said, assuming that Carrie is given a lie detector test, she would probably be able to beat it. I'm sure most (all?) spies are taught how to beat them. Further, her "crazy" would throw off the readings anyway.
 
#22 ·
That said, assuming that Carrie is given a lie detector test, she would probably be able to beat it. I'm sure most (all?) spies are taught how to beat them. Further, her "crazy" would throw off the readings anyway.
There are two ways that I know of to beat a lie detector test. One is to be unusually calm and controlled. I doubt Carrie could manage that. The second is to cause yourself physical distress, like having a tack in your shoe and pressing your foot down on it. Carrie would have a hard time with that, since they strip searched her. Maybe she could dig her fingernails into her skin but that might be noticed.

Since the CIA gave lie detector tests to its own agents (Saul, Carrie, etc.) in a previous episode, clearly they do not think they are capable of completely beating a lie detector.
 
#24 ·
There are two ways that I know of to beat a lie detector test. One is to be unusually calm and controlled. I doubt Carrie could manage that. The second is to cause yourself physical distress, like having a tack in your shoe and pressing your foot down on it. Carrie would have a hard time with that, since they strip searched her. Maybe she could dig her fingernails into her skin but that might be noticed.

Since the CIA gave lie detector tests to its own agents (Saul, Carrie, etc.) in a previous episode, clearly they do not think they are capable of completely beating a lie detector.
If you're in a constant state of freaking out, wouldn't that do it?

(I assume when Carrie took her Company tests, she was medicated, and of course they didn't know she was kray-kray.)
 
#25 ·
I'd guess not. When they switched from watching her to planning to kidnap her, the regular surveillance was withdrawn and the kidnappers kept themselves hidden pretty well.
I thought the surveillance that was Quinn watching and the guy Quinn stalled was the FBI surveillance, not the Iranians. That's why the "You look good after Yoga" comment from the Iranian was supposed to be a shocker.

Although if her duplicity (triplicity?) was not suspected before, it certainly is
after the lie detector test.
Nah.
Carrie can answer the "Does anybody else know we were meeting?" "lie" with "Of course. Your lawyer knows."
 
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