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Tivo Stream Outside of Home Network?

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#1 ·
Anybody know when TiVo Stream will allow me to watch my TiVo when I'm outside of my home network? I've heard that it's in the works, and it would be great to use right within my TiVo App instead of having to rely on my SlingBox to accomplish this.
 
#53 ·
It's all going to be moot if there will be restrictions similar to those in place for the CCI byte / transfer.
Depends on your cable provider. Mine only protects Premium channels so it'll still work fine for me. But if you have one that protects everything like Time Warner then it would be pretty useless.

Although if it is limited by CCI it's not really much better then downloading, so I wonder what the point would be?
 
#54 ·
Yeah the whole point of streaming was to appease the CCI byte.

I want this to work with my Stream (and my Premiere) just as it works with the Stream+Roamio. And we've been told that it would.

And I want it to let me stream any and all recorded content, outside the home. Otherwise it's completely useless to me.

Let's see how TiVo manages to disappoint us, yet again. :rolleyes:
 
#55 ·
Depends on your cable provider. Mine only protects Premium channels so it'll still work fine for me. But if you have one that protects everything like Time Warner then it would be pretty useless.

Although if it is limited by CCI it's not really much better then downloading, so I wonder what the point would be?
I have TWC and they restrict everything with the CCI byte except the locals.

That's why I thought STREAMING outside the home was the answer, similar to how I can STREAM from the Premiere in my Family Room to the Premiere in my bedroom.

I have a Slingbox so I can stream whatever channel I want. I was hoping to be able to get rid of the Slingbox and 2 Premieres and replace it with a Roamio+ and Mini.
 
#57 ·
We had one reviewer that mentioned protected channels - that is where the concern comes from. I also agree that honoring the CCI byte for external streaming doesn't make any sense - but until 7am tomorrow we just won't know.

Plenty of time to get pissed off when we have the whole story! :)
 
#59 ·
Very cool... 2 notes... as someone else noted only wi-fi is supported. Apparently LTE to come later. Premium channels will not stream out of house.
Now, as the only iDevices my wife and I own are phones and pods, no pads, I'm waiting for a PC browser function.
 
#61 ·
Slingbox 500 with HDMI is worthless IMO. What makes Sling great is ability to exploit the analog hole using component. I was very glad to see Roamios released with analog outputs still. A day will come when analog outputs on these boxes will be gone, though at that point probably HDMI/component adapters could be used to work around the HDCP nonsense.
Is there a way to get component out on a Roamio base with such a converter? (or possibly a breakout cable)

If so, I might pick up a Slingbox 350 to replace my Stream
 
#64 ·
WTF. Seriously?

This isn't an issue for streaming products from Dish (Hopper,) DirecTV (Genie,) or Verizon FIOS is it?

So, why TiVo?

TiVo has perfected the art of getting me exciting for a feature or product... and then surprising me with new and novel ways to disappoint me. What a joke. What a waste. :down:
TiVo better fix this one soon because streaming is NOT the same as copying.
 
#65 ·
It doesn't really impact me all that much because I am on FIOS, but I would be interested in hearing TiVo's resoning for this.

Did they get a cease and desist order? Was the decision based on a cable labs legal opinion of some type?

I know TiVo tends to be rather closed lipped about this kind of thing, but with as draconian some of the cable companies are being with the CCI byte - it would be good PR for them to present their best case.
 
#66 ·
It doesn't really impact me all that much because I am on FIOS, but I would be interested in hearing TiVo's resoning for this.

Did they get a cease and desist order? Was the decision based on a cable labs legal opinion of some type?

I know TiVo tends to be rather closed lipped about this kind of thing, but with as draconian some of the cable companies are being with the CCI byte - it would be good PR for them to present their best case.
Hoping Margret is watching this thread and might be able to shed some light on this. She's been excellent with communication regarding the Roamio so far! :up:
 
#67 ·
She has been very careful - and I do not blame her. She provides quick informational posts and doesn't engage in debate or conversation.

It is very rare that she will answer the "why" question...

Just glad I have FIOS!!!!
 
#68 ·
Is there a way to get component out on a Roamio base with such a converter? (or possibly a breakout cable)

If so, I might pick up a Slingbox 350 to replace my Stream
Something like this is what you would need (HDMI to component + R/L audio output):
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product_print.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011410&p_id=8125
Here's a different one available at Amazon (but based on reviews you probably should shop around):
http://www.amazon.com/Kanex-Pro-HDR...ywords=hdmi+to+component+and+r/l+audio+output
 
#72 ·
Interesting note from the support site, hm.

http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2762/

I can't achieve full signal strength (6 dots)
Currently, the TiVo App for iOS uses a proxy server to handle transfers between your TiVo DVR and your iOS device. Soon, you will be able to connect directly to your home network-when this happens, you will be able to get all six dots. Until then, the highest attainable signal strength is five dots.

The proxy server does not affect your ability to stream or download programs.
 
#73 ·
I just noticed that tidbit as well while looking over the help documentation. This explains why we see options for port forwarding on the sys-info page for the Stream, but no setup is currently required for that. The port-forwarding will be necessary in the future to allow direct connections to your home IP.
 
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