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Amazon Streaming / Amazon Prime

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#1 ·
Does anyone know when/if Amazon streaming is coming to the roamio? i suspect that once streaming is implemented it will support amazon prime (free) streaming.
 
#77 ·
I'm not really sure what that means, but I have plenty of options for streaming music as it is, so doubt that will be the reason I finally get to it.
It means that Google recently opened up app development for the Chromecast to third parties.

The main reason I got a Chromecast is because those fools over at Comcast won't allow you to use the Roku HBOGo app or the Roku ShowtimeAnytime app like everyone else will. There is a Chromecast app for HBOGo and it works very well. Unfortunately, there is not yet a Showtime app for Chromecast, so you are forced to use the "cast a tab" app which does not work nearly as well.
 
#79 ·
Well, now we know why there is not going to be Prime Streaming on the TiVo, Amazon just announced their own ATV competitor. Sucks. They expect us to have separate boxes for everything.
I don't understand your logic. Prime Streaming is available on many many platforms. Releasing their own box doesn't mean they're suddenly going to stop supporting all those platforms or stop developing for new ones.
 
#80 ·
I don't understand your logic. Prime Streaming is available on many many platforms. Releasing their own box doesn't mean they're suddenly going to stop supporting all those platforms or stop developing for new ones.
I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
 
#83 ·
Maybe. Apple were the ones who got DRM free music available so they might like to do that for video as well.
And in usual Apple fashion, they will charge you more for it.

There is a big difference though between music and movies given that you can buy a CD and all the music on it is DRM free, so selling DRM free music downloads wasn't really that hard to get the music studios to agree to it. You don't have the option of purchasing movies on physical media that is DRM free, so DRM free movie downloads would be a lot tougher to swallow by the TV/movie industry.
 
#84 ·
And in usual Apple fashion, they will charge you more for it.

There is a big difference though between music and movies given that you can buy a CD and all the music on it is DRM free, so selling DRM free music downloads wasn't really that hard to get the music studios to agree to it. You don't have the option of purchasing movies on physical media that is DRM free, so DRM free movie downloads would be a lot tougher to swallow by the TV/movie industry.
Apple doesn't charge anything "extra" for getting non DRM versions of audio tracks. They just show up that way. They advocated for it. I don't think the studios though are playing ball when it comes to DRM.
 
#85 ·
Apple doesn't charge anything "extra" for getting non DRM versions of audio tracks. They just show up that way. They advocated for it. I don't think the studios though are playing ball when it comes to DRM.
I still don't see Amazon abandoning support for Prime on existing or new 3rd party platforms. Their main drive is to sell content and Prime subscriptions, not the new box. It's just one more way to sell. I still think we'll see Prime streaming on TiVo eventually, though I agree it's ridiculous that it's taking this long.
 
#86 ·
I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
They should have had it years ago on the Premiere but they never did. I doubt this new device is going to effect the availability on TiVo one way or the other.
 
#87 ·
I can think of no other explanation since Roamio should have had prime streaming months ago. Maybe amazon having their own box changes the equation for them. After all, apple is their big competitor in this area and apple doesn't allow playback of their content on non apple devices.
I would think it would be more likely because the number of people owning the TiVos is so small.

Plus the more boxes that have Amazon streaming the more subscribers they can get. I don't see how an expensive streaming box will do much to replace other streaming boxes which already work great and costs less. $99 is alot for a streaming only box.
 
#89 ·
But it can play games too. :)
Yes if forgot about that. i wish they had a less expensive version that didn't play games and didn't have voice recognition. Then drop the quad core processor to lower the price even more.

I'm going to get one but I don't want to pay $99. So i will wait until BestBuy gets them and use my $75 in reward zone dollars toward it. Plus that will reduce my taxes. With Amazon i would have to pay taxes on the full $99. WHile at BestBuy I won't get charged taxes for the portion paid with the Reward Zone Dollars.
 
#95 ·
I still don't see Amazon abandoning support for Prime on existing or new 3rd party platforms. Their main drive is to sell content and Prime subscriptions, not the new box. It's just one more way to sell. I still think we'll see Prime streaming on TiVo eventually, though I agree it's ridiculous that it's taking this long.
It is interesting that neither Chromecast nor the newly announced Android TV have Amazon apps available either. Kind of points the finger at Amazon as the hold up.
 
#96 ·
It is interesting that neither Chromecast nor the newly announced Android TV have Amazon apps available either. Kind of points the finger at Amazon as the hold up.
Sure, but that is because it directly competes with their products. For some reason they are not going to provide prime to Android users. I doubt that is the case for TiVo. I guess they just have not seen it as a priority for them. Hopefully that has changed recently though.
 
#97 ·
I gave up and bought a FireTV a couple of months ago (which is pretty nice and the voice search is great but I still would prefer not to have to switch devices).
I did the same. Like the Fire TV and don't mind switching to it as it gives not only Amazon Prime but also a better Netflix app. I had the TiVo Netflix app crash on me a couple of times causing the TiVo Roamio Pro to reboot, once while it was recording several show. That won't happen with the Fire TV.
 
#98 ·
Kind of points the finger at Amazon as the hold up.
TiVo PR told me a couple years back it was on Amazon to champion and develop. And HBO laughed at me when I asked about GO on TiVo. But, at the end of the day, the responsible parties are irrelevant. Our TV platform just isn't as capable as other (lower cost) boxes for Internet video. I've got a Roku 3 in the bedroom, a Fire TV in the family room, and a Chromecast in the basement. At all three locations I also have TiVo. Sucks for us.
 
#99 ·
It is interesting that neither Chromecast nor the newly announced Android TV have Amazon apps available either. Kind of points the finger at Amazon as the hold up.
I have not seen any definitive set of features for the upcoming Android TV, I don't think it is close to finalized yet. Google TV has an Amazon Prime app and Android TV should be an evolution of Google TV with a newer and easier to use operating system and more gaming options. It shouldn't be a step backwards in terms of streaming services available.
 
#101 ·
Any chance some Google TV boxes/devices get an update to the Android TV platform?
Not in my opinion and I am probably the biggest fan of Google TV. I don't think the hardware will be capable of running the new version of Android and all of the DRM requirements. If it is possible from a technical standpoint, it isn't feasible from a financial standpoint, no associated revenue to justify the costs.

I chose Google TV because it does the things I need as is and I never believed a $100 box would be updated years after released to be the same as current models. Just look to the first Apple TV, Roku, and other examples for evidence that won't happen. Some new Android TV apps might run just fine on Google TV but I suspect most won't.
 
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